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Old 03-01-2005, 06:07 PM
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Default Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

I don`t see the point in mixing different pokergames in 1 book. Sklansky does it all the time. One might argue that the same logic goes for all games but I don`t think it`s true because then you could only learn Holdem and master all the other games . Sklansky books are good but would be a whole lot better with holdem only .
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:12 PM
InfernoLL InfernoLL is offline
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Default Re: Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

A lot of poker concepts apply to many or all poker games. Do you really he think he should write a separate TOP for every game?
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Old 03-02-2005, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

Yes, it is the common practise .If you are a good NL tournament player does it make you a good 7-stud tournament player just because you know the concepts of poker?
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Old 03-02-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

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Yes, it is the common practise .If you are a good NL tournament player does it make you a good 7-stud tournament player just because you know the concepts of poker?

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Actually the answer is nearly yes. Some of the pros doing well in the smaller games in WSOP only played that game once before, in last years WSOP.

Many things are universal in poker.

If 2+2 was really into printing money I guess they could change a few paragraphs in TOP and sell it as Theory of Poker - 7 card stud. Then change another few paragraphs and sell it as Theory of Poker - Texas Hold'em etc etc.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

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Yes, it is the common practise .If you are a good NL tournament player does it make you a good 7-stud tournament player just because you know the concepts of poker?

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At the top levels, it happens more than you'd think. Jennifer Harman won her NL 2-7 lowball bracelet having never played the game before, and having gotten only a five-minute lesson right before the tournament by Howard Lederer.
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Old 03-02-2005, 12:23 PM
InfernoLL InfernoLL is offline
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Default Re: Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

There are separate books for Hold'em and 7CS. Complaining that there are also books with general concepts is ridiculous. If you don't want to have to apply general concepts to specific games, don't read the general concept books. You'll find yourself way behind.
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Old 03-02-2005, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: Mixing Holdem with 7-stud, Razz or whatever

There are several reasons why mixing games in books makes sense:

1. It may be the case that a particular concept that is applicable to all games is most easily and clearly explicable through using one particular game. The discussion of game theory in Theory of Poker is an obvious example. By using lowball draw as the illustrative game, some of the basic concepts behind game theory are more easily illuminated than if, say, Hold'em was used. Sometimes it is easier to learn/teach a concept through context A, even though you intend to apply it through context B. Teaching through analogy is a common technique to introduce or explain complex ideas, and this is the same thing.

2. Related to the above is that sometimes a concept or idea that is highly important in one game may also have applications in another game. When I used to study chess seriously I remember the advice was that you should aim to specialise in a small number of opening variations - the ones you intend to play in your games - but that you should seek to know at least something about every opening variation. The point is that sometimes a theme or concept that is mainly seen in, say, the Sicilian defence may turn up unexpectedly in the Ruy Lopez. You should aim to know something about everything and everything about some things.

3. Some players do actually play more than one game. Books addressing multiple games can be useful. Even if you so only play Hold'em you can benefit, whether directly or indirectly, through studying the other games.
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