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Old 10-27-2005, 12:06 AM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
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Default HU: River Action

2k party games.

i have 2k he has me covered.

villian has been winning more than his share of smallish pots in the 15mins we have played HU. i havent caught anything as of yet. seems pretty reasonable/TAGish, the kind of guy i dont think you have a huge edge against, but im still getting to know him.

he was raising a good amount pf, with and w/o position, but not getting too out of line post flop.

i complete 54o and he knocks on the button that is also the BB.

flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

i lead for 40, he calls real fast.

turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

i check and he bets $125 into a $115 pot. i call.

river: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, he bets 350. I CR allin.

im mostly interested in the river. is leading better here? what about a smaller CR?

thanks,

fsuplayer
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: HU: River Action

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seems pretty reasonable/TAGish, the kind of guy i dont think you have a huge edge against.


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I CR allin

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= huh?
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: HU: River Action

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seems pretty reasonable/TAGish, the kind of guy i dont think you have a huge edge against.


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I CR allin

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= huh?

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im more likely to get called here by a thinking player than a mediocre 10-20 player, right?
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: HU: River Action

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seems pretty reasonable/TAGish, the kind of guy i dont think you have a huge edge against.


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I CR allin

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im more likely to get called here by a thinking player than a mediocre 10-20 player, right?

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I think that the villain has 45 here very often, therefore i think that you CANT be bluffing (at least not profitably), between the times that he calls w/ sets (not very often, only his higher ones), and the times when he has the nuts. A thinking player should be able to realize this and fold most of his hands. Thinking players dont go broke in limped in pots against the obvious nuts very often.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:12 AM
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I think that the villain has 45 here very often, therefore i think that you CANT be bluffing (at least not profitably), between the times that he calls w/ sets (not very often, only his higher ones), and the times when he has the nuts. A thinking player should be able to realize this and fold most of his hands. Thinking players dont go broke in limped in pots against the obvious nuts very often.

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This hand was played heads-up. As in, only two hands were dealt.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:26 AM
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This hand was played heads-up. As in, only two hands were dealt.

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your an idiot.

To the OP; what would you do w/ 22 in villain's spot (after your river push)? What do you think most fairly solid players (as you described this one) would do? There are times when a push is ok, but early into a heads-up with a TAG, decent opponent, whom isnt tilted (and doesnt think you are) i doubt that a push is anywhere near the most profitable line.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: HU: River Action

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seems pretty reasonable/TAGish, the kind of guy i dont think you have a huge edge against.


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and

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I CR allin

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= huh?

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im more likely to get called here by a thinking player than a mediocre 10-20 player, right?

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I think that the villain has 45 here very often, therefore i think that you CANT be bluffing (at least not profitably), between the times that he calls w/ sets (not very often, only his higher ones), and the times when he has the nuts. A thinking player should be able to realize this and fold most of his hands. Thinking players dont go broke in limped in pots against the obvious nuts very often.

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personally i instacall here with A8, A6, and all sets
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:37 AM
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personally i instacall here with A8, A6, and all sets

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And expect to see?
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:12 AM
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Default *RESULTS*

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seems pretty reasonable/TAGish, the kind of guy i dont think you have a huge edge against.


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and

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I CR allin

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= huh?

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im more likely to get called here by a thinking player than a mediocre 10-20 player, right?

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I think that the villain has 45 here very often, therefore i think that you CANT be bluffing (at least not profitably), between the times that he calls w/ sets (not very often, only his higher ones), and the times when he has the nuts. A thinking player should be able to realize this and fold most of his hands. Thinking players dont go broke in limped in pots against the obvious nuts very often.

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personally i instacall here with A8, A6, and all sets

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this is exactly what i was thinking as well.

to those of you who wouldnt go broke with a set there, well, stick to full games bc you will get run over folding in these spots.

his turn/river bet was really what lead me to CR all in as an overbet.

he slightly overbet the turn, which is often a tell of strength. his river bet was also quite strong, not some 'please call me with an '8' bc I have a crappy ace' value bet. it reeked of strength.

after I moved in, he thinks for almost the whole time (which now a days isnt much) and calls with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].


thanks for the responses.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:21 AM
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i like it. if he has a set you're getting all his chips any way you play it. he probly doesn't raise your river lead with a 2pr hand, but he might call your c/r push with 2pr. and all-in is better than a smaller c/r; let him think you're trying to buy it with busted hearts.
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