So I just lost 30K......

[Jonny]

Ok, here is the deal. I have been running like absolute crap lately in 2000NL on party. I won't go into details but lets just say i'm losing sets over sets and being 2 outed constantly after the money goes in. I've been playing shorthanded obviously, not full ring for the most part. This caused me to lose 15 buyins. I tried to move down to 1000NL, but lost some sick flush over flushes there as well, now I have 8K in my roll, down from about 40K a week ago. I built up this roll pretty much in the last 3 months in 2000NL. I had back to back months where I won 30K in about 10,000 hands. Then over the last 10,000 hands(this month) I am getting smoked.

I'm an idiot for not moving down to 1000 when i hit 20K BR, but I felt I was dominating 2K enough to comeback. Well, that burned me.

Now I have to rebuild from probably NL400!!!!

This pretty much just sucks. I mean I have like 10K in the bank and a bunch in the stock market, but I can't really touch those(still have to pay about 15K in taxes this year).

So, is there anyone else who this has happened to, and how long before I'm able to get back into the 10/20 game?

Oh yeah, it seems like the games are worse during the holiday season. Is this just me or what?

[istewart]

I wouldn't exactly call November 14th "holiday season."

[Jonny]

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I wouldn't exactly call November 14th "holiday season."

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I was talking about the end of the year. i.e. people are spending more on xmas and less on poker...

[Hybrid_11]

the case with the 3/6 is nothing unusal 150 bb swings are very common, not just in november. And losing a grand is only 150 so thats no need to post yet another party is rigged

I don't know guys but i think either november is an unlucky month or its party. No im not saying its rigged, maybe they got alot more loose players with their commercials and stuff. Because this month in Party i, too took a beating. I am not playing high stakes like you are, but i went from a $1400 roll playing 3/6 and beating it by 2bb/hr in 10k hands, to a $400 roll. Maybe someone can look at their PT database from last year and see if they experienced something similar.

[Jonny]

You may have something there. I lost last nov. as well. I have only lost 4 out of 30 months, and 2 have been november.

[jman220]

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I don't know guys but i think either november is an unlucky month or its party. No im not saying its rigged, maybe they got alot more loose players with their commercials and stuff. Because this month in Party i, too took a beating. I am not playing high stakes like you are, but i went from a $1400 roll playing 3/6 and beating it by 2bb/hr in 10k hands, to a $400 roll. Maybe someone can look at their PT database from last year and see if they experienced something similar.

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Your bankroll is insufficient for $3/$6. I am assuming you are talking about limit full handed. If you are talkking 3/6 shorthanded, your bankroll is really insufficient. If you are talking about no limit, your bankroll is ridiculously insufficient.

[MicroBob]

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i went from a $1400 roll playing 3/6 and beating it by 2bb/hr in 10k hands, to a $400 roll. Maybe someone can look at their PT database from last year and see if they experienced something similar.


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2bb/hr in 10k hands is pretty meaningless because 10k hands is a pretty small sample.

You've dropped 166BB's playing 3/6 which either means that your first 10k hands was a lucky streak (very very possible) or that you have experienced a fairly typical downswing (also very possible).


I don't have a PT database from last year available...but I can tell you that I dropped 230BB's at the beginning of this month in very little time (at 5/10).

I was a bit concerned naturally....about the downswing and the hit to my bankroll...and also about the strength of my game (but I'm always concerned about the strength of my game).

I have since bounced back and about 12k hands into the month I am +140BB's overall. So that's a +370BB upswing in about 7k hands.
It doesn't really mean that I'm all that great a player.
It does mean that I've been running pretty damn hot though.

Go me!!



Warning: players who think in terms of "I just KNOW that I'm playing correctly...almost PERFECT poker...but I'm just getting really unlucky cards" are almost certainly NOT playing anything close to 'perfect' poker.
you might play ABC-ish type poker where you didn't make any ridiculous blunders like folding the nuts on the river. But you certainly didn't play anything close to perfect.

Barry Greenstein stated that he makes several mistakes in every session.
I believe Phil Ivey and Howard Lederer subscribe to this philosophy too.

Just because you can't find your small-ish mistakes and you don't think you made any doesn't mean they weren't there.
they were. It's almost guaranteed.

[lighterjobs]

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I don't know guys but i think either november is an unlucky month or its party. No im not saying its rigged, maybe they got alot more loose players with their commercials and stuff. Because this month in Party i, too took a beating. I am not playing high stakes like you are, but i went from a $1400 roll playing 3/6 and beating it by 2bb/hr in 10k hands, to a $400 roll. Maybe someone can look at their PT database from last year and see if they experienced something similar.

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is this a gimmick account?

[tubalkain]

Take a week off, then start rebuilding from NL 200. You don't want to put yourself into a position where you could tilt the rest off. If the downswing continues, NL 200 should insulate you from getting completely slaughtered long enough to survive it and eventually move back up. It's far better to be safe and have part of your bankroll than to play recklessly and lose the whole thing.