[3/6 Party] Ugh, I turned 2 pair...

[Xhad]

Preflop: Absent reads I would fold, but MP3 has been playing almost every hand (with super passive postflop play) and CO has been making a lot of isolation raises, meaning their hands are probably garbage and drawing hand, respectively. Am I right in my thinking that K8o is good enough against what is essentially three random hands, or is this too loose?

Flop: Don't think I can bet 2nd pair on this drawish board.

Turn: Ugh. Now what?

Hand converter isn't working, hope this is clear enough. No one is close to all-in. 8 players this hand.

Preflop:

Hero is SB ($1) with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop (4 SB): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Everyone checks.

Turn (2 BB): K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero: ???

[siccjay]

I don't mind the call.

Uhh bet the turn?

[Xhad]

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Uhh bet the turn?

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What's the plan against a raise? That's the main reason I made this post.

[olavfo]

Bet the flop and take control of the hand.

You're up against two weak (or so we assume) opponents plus a random BB hand. You have second pair, good kicker and no reason to believe you're not ahead at this point. Giving a free card in this situation is bad.

If called, you bet the turn, of course. Up to this point the hand plays itself.

If you're raised on the turn you have some thinking to do, but after you have signaled strength with a flop bet, your opponents actions will be easier to interpret.

[PokerSparky]

Preflop, meh, I usually fold in 1/3 SB structure.

Bet the turn and if you're raised I call down.

[Harv72b]

Very easy preflop fold, especially given the blind structures. I normally hate this saying, but in this case I think it truly applies: if you're thinking this hard about a preflop decision with a crappy hand like K8o, you should probably be playing more tables. Any (perceived) edge that you have preflop will be offset by the fact that you're out of position on every postflop street, and you cannot expect to collect a lot of bets from either opponent unless you hit a dream board (like 882KX vs. CO's 22). Just let it go preflop.

Since you did complete, bet the friggin' flop.

As far as the turn goes, it "super passive" MP3 raises, I'm bailing. If either other player raises (especially CO), I'm 3-betting and bet/folding a club river.

[lerxst337]

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Uhh bet the turn?

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What's the plan against a raise? That's the main reason I made this post.

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Please tell me not betting is an option, of course you bet. If you are raised, call down, although I'm not certain why we give the raiser credit for the flush--wouldn't he bet the flush draw? The more I think about it, I want to 3-bet, but I'm a scaredy cat too! One thing is sure, you're NOT folding.