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Old 11-29-2005, 02:13 AM
housenuts housenuts is offline
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Default 3/6 - 3rd highest 4-flush

no reads on villain

How does this all look? I have the 3rd highest flush on the river here. It's really tough to put him on the Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] as well because he didn't bet or c/r the flop. So really that leaves a hand with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (unlikely) as one of the only ones that can beat me.

How do you play this out?
PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:54 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - 3rd highest 4-flush

I think doing anything other than what you did would be a mistake. Nice hand.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:55 AM
Harv72b Harv72b is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - 3rd highest 4-flush

This looks fine to me. I think that most often you just got check/raised by a worse flush (something like 66 with the 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), but since there are 3 potential flushes that can beat you and I don't see many of the hands you beat putting a third bet in on the river, a 3-bet can't be for value.

This obviously changes with a solid read on your opponent.

FWIW, against an unknown I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]--plenty of players will take a WA/WB line with a weak Q on the flop, and you also can't rule out 3x3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] playing the hand this way.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:04 AM
olavfo olavfo is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - 3rd highest 4-flush

Nice hand.

The river bet is a good value bet, since you will win 1 BB those 6 times Villain calls with a smaller flush and lose 2 BB those 2 times he check-raises you with the nuts.

So betting the river has an EV of at least (6*1 - 2*2)/8 BB = +0.25 BB (assuming Villain never folds a flush you can beat).

If Villain will sometimes call without a flush or checkraise you with some flushes you can beat, you will make more.

However, it's unlikely that you would make money by 3-betting (I'm too lazy to do the math properly).
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