review: hand 59

[Greg J]

You do realize, that despite some issues I took, I accepted all of your assumptions, with the exception of correcting for the discounted possibility of initiating a worse hand folding. Perhaps 80-20% fold to call (if behind) is too generous in favor my argument? Is that what you are saying?

Well for what it's worth, I think he will bet if checked to without a flush far more often than 10% of the time. Bottom line, we take issues with each other's assumption by which we reach our respective calculations.

[baronzeus]

Either the way, the EV is close, and it's a bout at most a difference of a quarter of a BB, so it doesn't matter too much.

[Malcom Reynolds]

Interesting. I was thinking bet the river in a classic Clarkmeister flush theorem, but does the theorem include baby flushes as hands to pull this with?

The hands that you fold that are better than yours are fewer when you have the flush compared to a two-pair or whatever, so maybe check-calling really is a good line.

[Wetdog]

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I think the only street played right is the turn.

pf call seems pretty bad
where's the 3bet on the flop??
the river is a pretty easy c/c

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I have to agree here too.

Really, call with 2-5 sooted? We've been through this before, but ferchrissake mike, 2-5 sooted? 2+2ers have lost their chat privilege for yelling at fish who call raises with that (not me. i say "nh").