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Old 11-17-2005, 06:03 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio Satellite Deal Proposal

The chip leader is irrelevant, 1st and 2nd pay the same.
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:06 PM
KingDan KingDan is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio Satellite Deal Proposal

Bigstack get a seat for free in this situation. There is always the chance he will finish 3rd

Besides I'm a cocky mofo and I didn't play to win 150. I play on.
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:12 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio Satellite Deal Proposal

Its a reasonably fair deal. I'de gambol it up and play anyway though.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio Satellite Deal Proposal

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depends on whether the money means anything to you. If it does not then go for 1st and forget the deal. If the money means something to you then you have to take the deal, you are severely short stacked especially if you take the chip leaders stack into consideration. Also, everyone thinks they are more skilled than their opponent more times than not. In addition at only 5xBB you have almost zero FE. You would need to do some quick chip accumulation to regain any FE.

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The money does have some value (especially that day when I lost my stack twice in NL cash getting cold decked with KK vs oppennents Aces).

I'm not the type to always think that I'm more skilled, but my opponents were making obvious errors (not calling with pot odds, bad calls with weak aces). Although any skill advantage is severly diluted given my stack.

My fold equity was actually not all gone - they were still folding to my allins, however, they were getting worn down as I began pushing every 3 or 4 hands.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio Satellite Deal Proposal

Take the cash.

Put it on Black.

Play the tournie.
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Old 11-17-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio Satellite Deal Proposal

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It's "fair enough", but you're taking a very slight EV hit when you consider the remote possibility that the big stack still finishes 3rd.


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I do realize that - however, explaining that to the big stack wasn't very successful.

I denied a deal for a few hands, down to 3 min before the next level (300-600). Ultimately, I did take the deal as it was becoming clear that I would be lucky to get my chips in as a 60-40 favorite and it would be a coin flip between me and Mr Loosey.
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Old 11-18-2005, 10:59 AM
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Take the cash.
Put it on Black.
Play the tournie.

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wow useful advice from a guy with 26 posts.
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Old 11-18-2005, 11:02 AM
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Do you play Warcraft?
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Old 11-18-2005, 11:48 AM
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Do you play Warcraft?

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don't even know what that is. I thought this was a poker site (used to be a good one), maybe I'm wrong.
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