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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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[ QUOTE ] What range do you put villain on? [/ QUOTE ] AJ+, TT+ seems like a reasonable range maybe you could go as loose as: 88+, AT+, KQ A raise to 75 is a fairly large raise and it is coming from UTG+1. My range in his shoes is KK+, AK so I'm not too eager to play AQ in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] You're right in thinking that KK+, AK SHOULD be the range for villain in his position, but this is a $55 so I'm not going to automatically give him credit for it. Also, assuming you are the only caller, you have position on HIM thoughout the hand. Depending on how well you play post-flop, this is a definite "call and see" scenario. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
i should have noted that when choosing one style of play over another, i generally lean towards weak-tight. so it's an easy fold for a weak-tightie.
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What range do you put villain on? [/ QUOTE ] AJ+, TT+ seems like a reasonable range maybe you could go as loose as: 88+, AT+, KQ A raise to 75 is a fairly large raise and it is coming from UTG+1. My range in his shoes is KK+, AK so I'm not too eager to play AQ in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] You're right in thinking that KK+, AK SHOULD be the range for villain in his position, but this is a $55 so I'm not going to automatically give him credit for it. Also, assuming you are the only caller, you have position on HIM thoughout the hand. Depending on how well you play post-flop, this is a definite "call and see" scenario. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that seeing a flop in position with AQ against an average $55 is a good situation to be in. I would like calling here much more if I was on the button, but even then I would still fold most of the time. The main thing I don't like about calling here is if the villain's range is tight, you are often times far behind. However, if his range is loose you will end up folding the best hand on the flop a lot of the time. Will the times you outplay him postflop make up for this? |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
What hands make you "way behind"? AA, KK, AK, QQ...that's it.
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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What hands make you "way behind"? AA, KK, AK, QQ...that's it. [/ QUOTE ] And what range would you put a tight $55er on? These hands make up a large portion of such a range. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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[ QUOTE ] What hands make you "way behind"? AA, KK, AK, QQ...that's it. [/ QUOTE ] And what range would you put a tight $55er on? These hands make up a large portion of such a range. [/ QUOTE ] Nobody every said UTG+1 was tight. In fact he's already won a 400 chip pot, do we know what he did it with? |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What hands make you "way behind"? AA, KK, AK, QQ...that's it. [/ QUOTE ] And what range would you put a tight $55er on? These hands make up a large portion of such a range. [/ QUOTE ] Nobody every said UTG+1 was tight. In fact he's already won a 400 chip pot, do we know what he did it with? [/ QUOTE ] No, sorry. Starting to 8-table, still working on picking up reads. Obviously AQ is a good hand and there are obvious arguments for calling (i.e. it's good to play good hands), but here is what I don't like: - it's offsuit - I'm not guaranteed to see a flop if it's raised behind me - while I have position on him, I won't on anyone else that comes in - it's going to be expensive to decipher c-bets from value bets from dominating hands (e.g. if he leads out an A or Q high flop, it's going to get expensive to define his hand) - he's utg+1 and his range is tight - if we both miss, he takes it down more often than I do because of betting inertia To me it's looking like, if I hit I don't know where I am and it's expensive to find out, and if I don't I often lose the pot. But hey, obviously I'm not totally sure of what to do or else I wouldn't have posted this. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
Trust me, a guy calling a raise is much scarier to the raiser (excluding AA) than you give him credit for. He has no idea what you have either, and will probably be thinking the same as you (assuming he's not a donk).
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
If I had a read that the villain was solid or tight, I would be apt to lay this down. If I had played a lot of games with her, I should have some idea here. Even if you've got 8 tables open, you have time to open the hand history if you're not sure how she got those chips.
If I just assumed it was an average 55er I would call here, and like others here, I'd likely lay down AJ. It's close, a fold isn't terrible, but you might be passing on some EV v. an average villain. |
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