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If I Think They\'re Coming Along
***** Hand History for Game (?) *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 15, 04:50:43 EDT 2005 Table Table 65242 (Real Money) Seat 10 is the button Total number of players : 10 xSeat 1: KCs13 ( $62 ) xSeat 2: thirty_se7en ( $287.15 ) xSeat 3: hbar111 ( $238.60 ) Seat 4: yearrgh ( $286 ) Seat 5: Arbo604 ( $213.70 ) xSeat 6: sled_ed ( $213.70 ) Seat 7: nightmare4ya ( $190 ) xSeat 8: komalkrishna ( $580.27 ) Seat 9: hanreich ( $159.80 ) xSeat 10: Hero ( $197 ) KCs13 posts small blind [ $1 ]. thirty_se7en posts big blind [ $2 ]. Holecards: Dealt to Hero [J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] hbar111 calls [ $2 ]. yearrgh folds. Arbo604 folds. sled_ed calls [ $2 ]. nightmare4ya folds. komalkrishna calls [ $2 ]. hanreich folds. Hero calls [ $2 ]. KCs13 calls [ $1 ]. thirty_se7en checks. Flop: [7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] KCs13 checks. thirty_se7en checks. hbar111: bets $20 sled_ed calls [ $20 ]. komalkrishna: raises $40 At this point all I'm thinking is SHOULD I PUSH, since people seem interested right now. My read on the initial bettor to the flop is that he seems like a person who overvalues his basic "good" hands (in his mind). He wanted to put it all in preflop w/ JJ and lost it. So now the guy looks to be steaming and stealing pots leading up to this hand. The caller is 23.8%/4.5%/2.4aggro and those #s indicate he knows what he's doing. I put his hand on the straight draw, flush draw, or KJ-KA. Putting him on the Axc or Kxc would obviously be devastating and is a big factor to my decision. The flop min-raiser seems to be on what HE thinks is a good run. His #s are 76%/19.5%/5.9aggro. I put this guy on just plain retarded-ness--not the flush draw, nothing but nothing... So maybe it was the donk min-raising that set me off, but I shoved it in the middle. If there are no flush draws out there I'm definitely feeling good about this if I can get 2+ callers--and I think I can..... ALL-IN Hero [ $195 ] KCs13 folds. thirty_se7en folds. ALL-IN hbar111 [ $216.60 ] ALL-IN sled_ed [ $191.70 ] komalkrishna folds. Main pot $634 How would others play this hand? What would you put the flop CALLER on? What about the min-raiser, remember his #s though? Am I right in hoping the initial bettor calls if he's holding the King--I'm pretty sure I want him in there? I appreciate all comments. |
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
I would not push all-in unless you have the opened staright flush draw and even then I may not push, why not just call the turn bet and see what happens, there is a good chance someone called your all-in with Ax of clubs
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
Am I alone in this thinking or what?
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
[ QUOTE ]
Am I right in hoping the initial bettor calls if he's holding the King [/ QUOTE ] What king would he call a push with there that he limped with preflop? [ QUOTE ] Am I alone in this thinking or what? [/ QUOTE ] It is a limped pot and you have at least three others very interested, making it quite possible your flush is dominated. If it was raised preflop and you were up against 2 opponents with an OESD and the flush draw, then I would push. |
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
This is when you fold.
You're in a bad position relative to the action. And only your gutshot is to the nuts. |
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
I hate it. You're putting it all on on a non-nut flush draw.
You better hope a non club 9 hits. |
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I think this is fine if you think that it will clear your club outs, which i think that it will.
However, I don't like getting too involved in a hand like this in a limped pot just cause the benifits don't neccessarily outweight the downside of the large amount of variance that comes with it. |
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
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I hate it. You're putting it all on on a non-nut flush draw. You better hope a non club 9 hits. [/ QUOTE ] What would be wrong with a club 9, I think that is exactly what Hero wants no? I see nothing wrong with this play, pushing will probably clear up your flush outs, very few villans have the gall to call all in on a lone flush draw. Even if only one villan comes along your coinflippin. |
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
i dont like this at all, you only have 4 outs to the nuts in a large, unraised, multi-way pot
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Re: If I Think They\'re Coming Along
nm
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