$22 - 99 is an overpair in a raised pot

pergesu · #1 10-31-2005, 02:57 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t705)
Button (t775)
SB (t770)
BB (t935)
UTG (t1265)
UTG+1 (t920)
UTG+2 (t505)
MP1 (t315)
Hero (t775)
MP3 (t1035)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, 1 fold, Hero calls t15, MP3 raises to t60, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls t45, Hero calls t45.

Flop: (t202.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t140, UTG+2 folds, Hero ??

WA/WB here I think..so what do I do?

Simplistic · #2 10-31-2005, 02:58 PM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t705)
Button (t775)
SB (t770)
BB (t935)
UTG (t1265)
UTG+1 (t920)
UTG+2 (t505)
MP1 (t315)
Hero (t775)
MP3 (t1035)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, 1 fold, Hero calls t15, MP3 raises to t60, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls t45, Hero calls t45.

Flop: (t202.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t140, UTG+2 folds, Hero ??

WA/WB here I think..so what do I do?

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RobGW · #3 10-31-2005, 03:07 PM

I'd bet right into him on the flop and see how he reacts. That way I get more info and it makes my decision easier. By 2 people just calling pf and then checking, it invites him to continuation bluff with AK or something like that so now you have no idea of where you are. And of course its possible he has a higher pair. So I'd fold here the way you played it.

pergesu · #4 10-31-2005, 03:13 PM

Betting into him lets him raise me with any two cards, exposing myself to getting outplayed hardcore. Checking allows me to raise and take the pot right there, which I'd prefer to do, and he may opt to call me with AK which is pretty good for me.

#5 10-31-2005, 03:20 PM

What makes you think he's raising you with any two(read:whiffed overs or 55-77)? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

pergesu · #6 10-31-2005, 03:25 PM

I didn't say he is, I said he can. I think that betting here is highly exploitable.

zambonidrivr · #7 10-31-2005, 03:27 PM

how did he get to 1300? do you recall?
you're at level 1, this is an easy fold.

RobGW · #8 10-31-2005, 03:32 PM

It sounds like you are putting him on 2 overs. In that case of course a raise is better. If he folds fine, if he calls thats good too. However, there is a possibility that he has you beat. He raised PF and bet pretty big on that flop. So are you willing to gamble this tourney on 99? Even if he calls a checkraise with AK you still might get outdrawn. I think the probability that you are beat or will get outdrawn outways the probability that you will win. Of course you were there so you may have a read or something like that.

On a side note, I generally don't worry about someone at the $22 outplaying me. If he is crazy enough to reraise me with air, then I'll get him eventually. Most of the time someone with 2 overs will just call the bet.

pergesu · #9 10-31-2005, 03:34 PM

I don't put him on two overs. The range, in my mind, is obviously two overs or an overpair. So I said it's WA/WB. Not sure what to do.

schwza · #10 10-31-2005, 03:40 PM

i'm kind of a coward, but i'd just check-fold. you'd have no problem check-folding a T64 board, right? well it's not very likely villain has AT, so it's basically the same.

if you wanted to get cute, you could check/call the flop and check/fold the turn. but if villain is going to fire two barrels with AK, then that line sucks.

i don't like a c/r because you win the pot if you're ahead but lose a lot more when you're behind.