Moses (Custer) hand #2: Folding TPTK

#1 12-09-2005, 01:54 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t1010)
Hero (t990)
UTG (t990)
UTG+1 (t1010)
UTG+2 (t970)
MP1 (t880)
MP2 (t1365)
MP3 (t745)
CO (t1015)
Button (t1025)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, 3 folds, MP3 raises to t45, 3 folds, Hero calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30.

Flop: (t142.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t100, UTG+1 raises to t275, MP3 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t517.50

I am puzzled. What did he put him on? TT or 99?

#2 12-09-2005, 01:59 PM

I'm puzzled too. I'm going broke here for sure.

#3 12-09-2005, 04:17 PM

Why no pre-flop reraise?

mlagoo · #4 12-09-2005, 04:29 PM

it was raised to him and he was out of position. preflop looks, if not standard, definitely reasonable.

postflop is strange. i can only imagine that... Hero is thinking that if UTG+1 not only bets but raises into the preflop raiser, he has to have a fairly strong holding here. but i'm not convinced that UTG+1 couldnt have AQ here. I would think that making this raise with AT/TT/99 might actually be a mistake. i dunno though. i dont play at those levels.

curtains · #5 12-09-2005, 04:36 PM

I would not have folded. Probably would have moved allin.

wuwei · #6 12-09-2005, 04:39 PM

Preflop, I play it the same way most of the time.

The flop fold reminds me a bit of an AK hand I posted not too long ago... most didn't like folding that flop either. UTG+1's flop rr is fairly scary considering the action, but that's probably giving too much credit to random players.

#7 12-09-2005, 05:04 PM

nah, yer doubling up! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

maddog2030 · #8 12-09-2005, 05:49 PM

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I am puzzled. What did he put him on? TT or 99?

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Never played a $215, but I'd say his range is obvious and narrow for the majority of players. Just sit and think of what hands play this way.

For the ones you beat, how much are you going to lose? How will the hand play out? How probable is it he has one of these versus one of the ones you beat? What are your outs?

For the ones you beat, how much value are you going to extract? How will the hand play out?

I think the answer is obvious.

#9 12-09-2005, 06:43 PM

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I am puzzled. What did he put him on? TT or 99?

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Never played a $215, but I'd say his range is obvious and narrow for the majority of players. Just sit and think of what hands play this way.

For the ones you beat, how much are you going to lose? How will the hand play out? How probable is it he has one of these versus one of the ones you beat? What are your outs?

For the ones you beat, how much value are you going to extract? How will the hand play out?

I think the answer is obvious.

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No, it's not. You know what questions to ask, but it's not easy to come up with answers. He could easily have AQ here. KK is also possible.

bigt439 · #10 12-09-2005, 07:14 PM

... these hands aren't getting any better...