$11: it's official. i am on tilt.

[liucipher]

i need reassurance like a kid needs his mother.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

CO (t1275)
Button (t2360)
SB (t995)
Hero (t710)
UTG (t360)
MP (t2300)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

UTG calls 100, MP raises to 200, 3 folds, Hero folds.

Correct, right?

[LesJ]

If it were a race heads up for your 710 chips with your small pair, I might say you should play in this spot. This is not the case, however. The UTG limper is very likely to end up all in on this hand basically meaning your 4s would have to hold up vs. most likely (at the BEST) 4 overcards. Folding is right here.
Les

[microbet]

It's close. I'm not in love with leaving myself with 6BBs with either 5 or 6 people left. MP is probably not in love with his hand and just wanted to play against UTG.

I probably push and hope to end up HU, if not, just hope they don't have an overpair and take a chance a tripling.

If I 200 more chips, I would fold. Probably even 100 more.

[splashpot]

I fold.

[bluefeet]

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It's close. I'm not in love with leaving myself with 6BBs with either 5 or 6 people left. MP is probably not in love with his hand and just wanted to play against UTG.

I probably push and hope to end up HU, if not, just hope they don't have an overpair and take a chance a tripling.

If I 200 more chips, I would fold. Probably even 100 more.

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I agree. Just an ounce more FE given this table, I fold pretty easily. Tough spot for sure.

[liucipher]

micro, you're blowing my world.

i think i may be playing too tight. i can't remember the last time I approached 6 handed with anything resembling more than 10xBB.

anybody else want to show me the way?

[microbet]

Again, I think it's close, but I think you have to look at the stacks. If you fold this hand, you have two guys crushing you, and you're fighting for 3rd place with 2 or 3 others at a disadvantage to them as well.

It would be a lot different if there were one really big stack and a whole bunch of you fighting for 2nd and 3rd.

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

CO (t1275)
Button (t2360)
SB (t995)
Hero (t710)
UTG (t360)
MP (t2300)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 4.

UTG calls 100, MP raises to 200, 3 folds, Hero folds.

Correct, right?

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With a call and a raise ahead of me, I would have folded. I would have looked at it this way: In this situation, 4-4 is roughly equivalent (maybe slightly ahead, but not by much) to many medium suited overcards...such as mmm J-8s or maybe 9-7s. Sooo...if those hands would equal a fold in your mind, them 4-4 probably does as well. Have a great day!

[brimstone1]

Flex your mind, and ask yourself this:

You are UTG, you have 360 chips. The blinds are 50/100.

What hands are you going to limp with?

Then fold comfortably.

[bluef0x]

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Flex your mind, and ask yourself this:

You are UTG, you have 360 chips. The blinds are 50/100.

What hands are you going to limp with?

Then fold comfortably.

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This is a $11... I just witnessed a million idiotic plays in my last 10.

I raise preflop 5BBish with QQ. Get a caller. Flop is Q high, I check- he bets, I raise, he calls. Turn T putting 2 diamonds on board. I make half pot bet he calls. River King of spades. I go all-in and he calls my all-in...

What'd he have? J7 diamonds for the almost nut J-high.

Asking yourself how you would play only goes so far... but yes I'd PROBABLY fold here.