you see that the preflop raiser has QQ. You have T8s. You...

[creedofhubris]

Had this happen to me in a limit game I was playing. Posted this question in the limit forum. Let's see how the result changes in NL.

The guy who's sitting to my right UTG+1 looks at his cards by flipping up the corners, and I see that he has Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. He doesn't know that I've seen his cards.

I have T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

We're playing 5/10 NL, and we each have $1000. He opens for $50. The table is fairly loose and if I call I'll probably get another couple callers. If I raise him we'll be heads up unless someone wakes up with AK-KK-AA.

What's my move?

[punter11235]

Raise would be good if stacks were deeper but with 100BB it will leave with too little room to exploit your advantage.

Best wishes

[Yeti]

Easy call.

[cero_z]

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Easy call.

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My vote as well. Obviously, if you knew you'd be heads up, calling would be right, since you'll destroy this guy whether you outflop him or not. It's worth the risk of letting others into the pot, since your situation is too good to pass up for $50, but you can't take the chance of opening it up for the QQ to reraise and get committed. Call and hope nobody else does, but realize that you'll have a lot of leverage even if there are callers.

I would call with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] if I knew such information.

[The_Bends]

Can't raise because you'll not have the room to manouver. Will never get stacked and will take the pot on a wide variety of flops. Easy call.

[tdarko]

call and i don't hesitate. does the answer change if he were holding KK or AA? i don't think it does.

[edge]

Call or raise. I'd be somewhat reluctant to just call because the table is loose and I don't really want to play T8s out of position into a bunch of people who could hold anything. I'd raise if I think he's capable of folding QQ on certain flops. If he's a loose bad player who won't drop QQ no matter what, I may even fold.

[tdarko]

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If he's a loose bad player who won't drop QQ no matter what, I may even fold.



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i am not playing this hand to get him to fold. thats the beauty of knowing what he has you either hit the flop big and break him or fold and lose a few bets before the flop. basically i am calling his preflop bet for a chance to take his whole stack.

[edge]

I don't think T8s breaks QQ often enough to make it worthwhile with these stacks if he won't fold regardless.