Party QJs

[bobbyi]

Looking at the hand now, my river call seems pretty bad. Yes? Any other streets interesting?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)
<font color="green">Stats legend: (VPIP, PFR, AF (# hands))</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP <font color="green">(37/25.5/3.5 (180))</font> calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO <font color="green">(56/17.5/.8 (53))</font> 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="green">(22/15/2.3 (2000))</font> caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (17 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

Turn: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls, CO folds.

River: (11.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

[TheMetetron]

Yes, the river call sucks.

[wackjob]

fold river.

[admiralfluff]

With a fairly tight 3 bet, and tight cap I'm tempted to fold this pf. I think I would definitely fold if the capper was the button, and I think preflop is the most interesting part of this hand.

With a 2k hand sample on SB, I think he has AK+ here almost always, so the river is an easy fold for me.

[imported_leader]

I think you can fold the river. He's not capping anything PF here that you have beat except maybe the occasional 99 and if he has that I don't know why he checked the flop. MP also has you beat some percentage of the time.

I'm new to HUSH so please bear with me. Constructive criticism concerning what I miss what is special to hush is very welcome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

To me it looks as if SB missed his Check/Raise. He might have a PP higher than T and figure the LAGs who acted in front of him raised and cold-called on two high cards. He definitly isn't afraid of the K so I would call the turn. But I don't think that split Js are good enough. On the other hand, the pot is huge. But I don't think SB's capping range from SB will go much further than AA-TT, AK (AQs maybe but unprobable). And you are behind all of those.

[imitation]

Fold preflop

[bobbyi]

[ QUOTE ]
With a fairly tight 3 bet, and tight cap I'm tempted to fold this pf. I think I would definitely fold if the capper was the button, and I think preflop is the most interesting part of this hand.

[/ QUOTE ]
When I call the cap, I'm getting almost 8:1 (I'm assuming no one is about to fold) with no chance of further raises and there is probably going to be a ton of action (the only guy who didn't put in raises preflop is a lag anyway) if I hit the board. How can QJs not be profitable here?

[imported_leader]

I'm not sure how helpful this is but:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

20,791,268 games 137.678 secs 151,013 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 19.0179 % 18.42% 00.60% { QsJs }
Hand 2: 18.7590 % 17.68% 01.08% { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 3: 26.0296 % 24.30% 01.73% { 88+, ATs+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 4: 36.1935 % 34.34% 01.85% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

[meep_42]

Pokerstove sucks for pre-flop considerations, as we won't be seeing all 5 cards the majority of the time.

-d