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Old 10-21-2005, 11:19 PM
joewatch joewatch is offline
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Default 8542ss hand (fun / brag post)

Anybody play this differently? Probably everybody! Fold the flop, make a full pot check-raise on the turn, right? What if you were Villain? Would you have called the river?

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Hero ($100)
UTG ($62)
UTG+1 ($78.75)
MP1 ($28.50)
MP2 ($30.90)
MP3 ($51.80)
CO ($153.05)
Button ($50.30)
SB ($98)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($5.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $5.25</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $5.25, UTG folds.

Turn: ($16) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $15.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $15.25.

River: ($77) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, after long dramatic pause, UTG+1 calls $40.

Final Pot: $157

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">

Villain mucked [3c 9s 5d Kc]

The 4th nut flush!
Outcome: Hero wins $157. </font>
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: 8542ss hand (fun / brag post)

When he bets the turn, you know he has the nutflush, and should push the pot, not miniraise him, you should double up on this hand.

PS. Dont wanna comment the flop call, nice catch.
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:15 AM
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Don't you think somebody might minraise here with a Q high flush? Or semibluff a set with the board showing 3 cards to a str8 flush? I think that if Villain were check-raised full pot, he might lay it down (although I have yet to see someone lay down an A high flush. Ever.)
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:23 PM
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When he bets the turn, you know he has the nutflush, and should push the pot, not miniraise him, you should double up on this hand.

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Hero won $76.5 of the $78.5 villain had. Good enough for me.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:13 AM
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(although I have yet to see someone lay down an A high flush. Ever.)

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How do you ever "see" someone lay down an A high flush unless it's you?
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: 8542ss hand (fun / brag post)

I would have bet the turn, there is now way that he puts you on the str. flush and most likely raises allowing you to come over the top of him.

How is this the 4th nut flush? Are you including straight flushes in this?
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Old 10-23-2005, 06:03 PM
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(although I have yet to see someone lay down an A high flush. Ever.)

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How do you ever "see" someone lay down an A high flush unless it's you?

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Either that person says "I layed down the A-high flush", or it is obvious from the betting pattern. (eg unraised pot, bet, raise, reraise, re-reraise, fold).
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Old 10-23-2005, 06:05 PM
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I would have bet the turn, there is now way that he puts you on the str. flush and most likely raises allowing you to come over the top of him.

How is this the 4th nut flush? Are you including straight flushes in this?

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Yes, nut flush is the high str8 flush. I had the 3rd nut flush. (although in this case, I knew it was 2nd nut.)
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 8542ss hand (fun / brag post)

since i enjoy being a nit, a flush is different than a straight flush. he had the nut flush.

and you had the 2nd nut straight flush. it is not the 3rd nuts when you have the 5c in your hand, it is the 2nd nuts. if the low straight flush is possible then the medium 5c9c is not and thus the low straight flush will always be the 2nd nut straight flush.

man that was fun.
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:27 AM
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since i enjoy being a nit, a flush is different than a straight flush. he had the nut flush.

and you had the 2nd nut straight flush. it is not the 3rd nuts when you have the 5c in your hand, it is the 2nd nuts. if the low straight flush is possible then the medium 5c9c is not and thus the low straight flush will always be the 2nd nut straight flush.

man that was fun.

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Thanks for clarifying. I had no idea. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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