Capping the turn correct here?

Baloosh · #1 07-14-2005, 05:01 PM

Typical PP micro-table (Loose, passive, with occassional craziness thrown in). UTG cold-called preflop, so I really didn't have him on a higher pocket pair, and to me his finger being stuck on the "raise" button screamed flush draw. Button was likewise calling the whole way, so maybe flush draw as well?

All comments appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (19.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP3 folds, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (31.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 34.25 BB

Bradyams · #2 07-14-2005, 05:05 PM

You didn't cap the turn, but your play looks good to me. On the turn you are only behind to JJ, and that seems unlikely given the pre-flop play. It wouldn't surprise me to see JJ not 3bet preflop from a typical donk, but I think that same type of player would have played it timidly on the flop as well (afraid of a higher PP). I think you are up against 55 or 22.

Nice hand.

Eeegah · #3 07-14-2005, 05:10 PM

^^^ I was thinking JJ too, but JJ would raise/cap this river.

(Grunching)

Capping the flop makes some sense for a flush draw, but then capping the turn? I really don't know what he could have at this point, unless it was AhJh or something and got a bit overzealous. If it was solely a flush draw he'd have folded the turn. I like all streets at any rate.

Sir Bruce · #4 07-14-2005, 05:16 PM

You're not actually capping this turn, but 3-betting is good. You have a monster hand, and you played it aggressively on all streets. Looks fine to me.

cmwck · #5 07-14-2005, 05:29 PM

I think you meant to ask whether 3-betting the turn was correct. And, I think it is. You're only behind to an amazing 3-combination JJ. Looks like set-over-set?

McNeese72 · #6 07-14-2005, 05:33 PM

I don't understand the question because UTG+1 capped the turn not you.

But it looks good to me. If one of them has JJ (or 34, you never know at microlimits) they are going to win some money off of me. But the way it was played, I don't see JJ.

Baloosh · #7 07-14-2005, 05:34 PM

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You didn't cap the turn, but your play looks good to me. On the turn you are only behind to JJ, and that seems unlikely given the pre-flop play. It wouldn't surprise me to see JJ not 3bet preflop from a typical donk, but I think that same type of player would have played it timidly on the flop as well (afraid of a higher PP). I think you are up against 55 or 22.

Nice hand.

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You're right... I'm an idiot and did not cap the turn.. he did. I should have said that I *would* have capped the turn.

deception5 · #8 07-14-2005, 05:44 PM

I don't think it's likely that UTG+1 has a flush draw when he raises the turn, although it is possible. I think a lower set is more more likely with a high pocket pair also being likely. You could be against someone who picked up a straight/flush draw on the turn or a crazy player.

Either way I play it the same.

aK13 · #9 07-14-2005, 05:46 PM

Wondering...

we can't protect our hand on the turn, so should we be check/raising for value?

joda mas · #10 07-14-2005, 05:48 PM

Well played on all streets.