Hand critique please

Baloosh · #1 06-18-2005, 11:38 AM

Pre-flop raise UTG ok? Smoothcall this flop? This was my first orbit, but I've yet to see a .5/1 Party table I didn't like (yet).

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Button calls, Hero raises, MP2 folds, CO 3-bets, Button folds, Hero caps, CO calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

River: (17.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

crownjules · #2 06-18-2005, 11:46 AM

I'd play it the same. I seriously doubt CO has QQ (due to preflop play) or J9 (would be strange to 3-bet with a gutshot vs. a preflop raiser).

atnels · #3 06-18-2005, 12:17 PM

I personally don't raise w/ 88 UTG in full ring games, but I know some people do.

The rest is fine.

D'OH · #4 06-18-2005, 12:21 PM

I think you should lead that flop and bet.

Fantam · #5 06-18-2005, 12:22 PM

I think that the PF raise was a bit strong from UTG. I would prefer to raise pocket pairs 99 and higher from EP pre-flop.

I also think that you should have bet out on the flop.

With no reads on the table and no 3-bet PF, you risked the flop being checked round when you did not lead out with a bet.

That could have allowed someone with a drawing hand, like a gut-shot to see a free turn card, which then might beat you.

I think you played the rest of the hand fine. I expect that CO overplayed either a weaker set or 2 pair.

topspin · #6 06-18-2005, 12:36 PM

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I think that the PF raise was a bit strong from UTG.

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I also think that you should have bet out on the flop.

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Frankly whenever I see a preflop raiser get all passive on the flop, 90% of the time it's because he flopped a monster. No one's going to think you flopped a set if you lead out, so just do it.

silkyslim · #7 06-18-2005, 12:42 PM

I like to limp with 88 UTG otherwise this line is good

Baloosh · #8 06-18-2005, 03:24 PM

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Frankly whenever I see a preflop raiser get all passive on the flop, 90% of the time it's because he flopped a monster. No one's going to think you flopped a set if you lead out, so just do it.

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I thought a check might give the impression of an AK type of hand, so I was looking to go for a check-raise. You give good advice though... makes more sense to bet out the flop with no reads on anyone at the table.

For those who are interested, Villain called with Q3o, and MHIG.

Vote4Pedro · #9 06-18-2005, 03:31 PM

you have to lead this flop...checking then waking up screams monster. I'd lead flop and call if raised. Then i'd c/r the turn and go from there

silkyslim · #10 06-18-2005, 03:38 PM

oop just saw that you checked the flop. this is bad, you were the preflop raiser, so just go ahead and bet