2 pair on a monotone board

Noo Yawk · #1 10-09-2004, 09:44 AM

Hi all. This was a hand a friend of mine played. Since I'm not a NL player, I thought I'd ask your opinions.

Player Backgrounds: My friend is a very conservative limit hold-em player that has been quite successful in our 20-40 game, but has recently aqcuired a taste for NL. He is a solid player, but tends to lay down hands a little too often for my taste.

The SB is a very aggressive player that has done much better at NL than in our limit games. He likes to buy in enough to cover the table, and is pretty good at beating up the small stacks. He can lay down a marginal hand, but is always suspicous of bluffs, and therefore has trouble laying down better hands on scary boards.

SB has $3000. BB has $1000

Blinds are $2/$5

The hand: Folded to SB who calls. BB checks with Q-6o.

The flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]-6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]-10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

SB bets $300. What is the best move for BB?

cornell2005 · #2 10-09-2004, 10:21 AM

he bet 300 into a 15 or so dollar pot?

Noo Yawk · #3 10-09-2004, 10:33 AM

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he bet 300 into a 15 or so dollar pot?

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Yes. He has a tendancy to overbet the pot just a tad. This is where the BB was a bit perplexed.

I did however hear of a play by Oneal Langsdon (SP?) where he bet 7k into a $300 dollar pot with the stone nuts and got called by a marginal hand because nobody would ever put him on the nuts here. I doubt the SB in this hand is aware of that move.

queenhigh · #4 10-09-2004, 11:35 AM

If someone bet 7k into a $300 pot the nuts are the only hand I would put him on.

Noo Yawk · #5 10-09-2004, 11:42 AM

What about the original question?

AtlBrvs4Life · #6 10-09-2004, 11:56 AM

I'd say this is an easy fold. Let the $5 go. If this guy consistently bets $300 into $15 pots, you can wait until you have a stonger hand to catch him.

fsuplayer · #7 10-09-2004, 12:35 PM

easy fold. if he has something like Qx with a diamond, its a coin flip. let the $5 go.

fsuplayer

bunky9590 · #8 10-09-2004, 06:17 PM

Turbo fold, but for chrissakes don't tell him you folded 2 pair.

Kaz The Original · #9 10-09-2004, 09:03 PM

I recommend you go broke in an unraised pot.

Noo Yawk · #10 10-09-2004, 11:47 PM

It seemed to me like a fold, but I don't want to offer advice to someone in a game that is unfamiliar to me. In limit this hand plays out much differently.

Does anyone get tempted here by the $300 lying in the pot from a potentialy marginal hand or a draw from an over aggressive player?