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Old 07-15-2004, 12:15 PM
Noo Yawk Noo Yawk is offline
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Default Close Value bets?

20-40 game, 10 handed, on the passive side.
Two very poor players limp in, which they would do with just about any two. Its also important to note that they don't bet or raise their hands unless its the nuts, but will also call with very little.
I raise with Q-10o. All behind me fold. 3 to the flop.

the flop is 9-10-K rainbow
they check, I bet, they call.

The turn: 5(9-10-K) they check, I bet they call..

River: A (5-9-10-K) They check, I bet, they call.
MHIG.
I'm still wondering if this was a bit on the thin side. It didn't feel like it at the time, but as I got to thinking....
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:42 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: Close Value bets?

would you bet the river against them if you had JJ?

if so then you're q kicker is almost certainly good and i'd bet that every time against people who call with very little.

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Old 07-15-2004, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Close Value bets?

I agree that JJ would have the same action here, but I am still not sure you'd bet.

Heads up, most of the time I bet here, but with 2 passives calling you down, you are probably just best checking here against a very good poss that one of the passives has some sort of soft K, or perhaps AT as well (after all what else would the call a value bet with .. T8? JT?)
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:24 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: Close Value bets?

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I agree that JJ would have the same action here, but I am still not sure you'd bet.

Heads up, most of the time I bet here, but with 2 passives calling you down, you are probably just best checking here against a very good poss that one of the passives has some sort of soft K, or perhaps AT as well (after all what else would the call a value bet with .. T8? JT?)

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uh, BOTH of them will call a value bet with any 9 5 or any other pocket pair down to deuces.

thats what poor players who meet the description of the poster do...they call with ANYTHING and everything that may win a showdown against a bluff. the ace king and ten do not scare them...value bet these 2 to death and play as many high card hands as possible against them. you will rape them in the short and long run but 100% in the long run.

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Old 07-15-2004, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Close Value bets?

The only questionable bet is on the river, but I think it's a correct value bet because you're last to act and they both checked to you. Had you been first to act, I think the correct move would have been to check.
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