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Old 12-22-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default ATs Button - isolating LP

Villain is a vanilla LP-P 70/3/.60 with 40 hands.

Villain leads the flop and then 3 bets my raise. Do you give him credit for the 8? Or pushing a KT/JT? What's your line?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero???
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

calls and reevaluates his hand on the turn.
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

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calls and reevaluates his hand on the turn.

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Old 12-22-2005, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

I call down.

If he has an 8 you obviously don't want to put more money in the pot.

If he has JT, 99, or is just bluffing you don't want to possibly fold to your aggression.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:57 PM
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I cap the flop and see his reaction on the turn.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

those guys know when they have something big. I say fold and wait for a better opportunity.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:09 PM
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I like Kwaz's move. Cap the flop for info.
Don't like folding, and don't want to have to call down.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

fyi, 70/3/.6 isn't really that passive. with his vpip, anything over 1 would be considered fairly aggressive. i'd say .6 would be pretty neutral.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

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I cap the flop and see his reaction on the turn.

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A loose/passive calls the raise preflop, granted it's a standard "in for one, call for two" type of a thing. Then he bets into you on the flop, no doubt knowing you'll most likely raise, followed by the three bet???

I think this is pretty serious play from an LP.

What range are you putting him on and what "reaction" are you looking for?
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: ATs Button - isolating LP

I think LP-P can be decieving at times; remember, these kids are bad, and they will play very passively until they get what they interpret as a good hand. Their top hands may consist of top pair, middle pair, or even bottom pair. I think you're good here alot of the time.
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