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Old 12-09-2005, 06:53 AM
restless restless is offline
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Default 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

BB is LAG.
Button is 55/20/1.2 over 35 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

River: (23.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero ?

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Old 12-09-2005, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

Raise preflop for value.

Call the river. I'd say K9/K4 is most likely, but the pot is easily large enough to see if he has 44 or Kx.
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

Hmm.

Does anyone have KK, QQ, KQ, K9 or K4?

KK and QQ is not likely if BB is LAG. LAGs almost always raise with premium hands. K9 or K4 are distant possibilies because flop got capped, but not completely out of line.

KQ is the hand you should be worried about. Only in that case BB:s game would make sense. But LAGs play pretty unpredictable. BB:s aggression factor is only 1.2, he is not super-aggressive LAG.

I think he has KQ, so I call river.
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Old 12-09-2005, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

Hero should three-bet and expect the LAGtards to hold Q9, K2 or other silly hands like that.
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Old 12-11-2005, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

well, I did 3-bet. Button folded and BB called with J8o. That's pretty stupid.

I really thought that KQ was unlikely sonce none of them raised it preflop. I didn't consider K4/K9 enough though, but I'm pretty sure he'd raise and cap the river with any Kx anyway.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:05 AM
Wyers Wyers is offline
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

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Raise preflop for value.

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Not necessarily for value. It's great that we hit our set but the reality is that we would like to have fewer opponents competing against our vulnerable nines.

There remain three players to act behind us and a raise would likely fold at least 2 of them, thus increasing the odds that our nines will hold up unimproved.
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:47 PM
UCLAseetoK UCLAseetoK is offline
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

Against the standard donkLAG at 2/4 (which is what appears to be the case), I'd 3 bet the river. Their hand range is too large to not do so, especially with people trapped in between.
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: 99 flops set, Big pot against LAG\'s

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Raise preflop for value.

Call the river. I'd say K9/K4 is most likely, but the pot is easily large enough to see if he has 44 or Kx.

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Also note that JT turned a straight, and with BB's passive calls on the flop he could easily have that as well.
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