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Old 11-30-2005, 09:58 AM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 shorthanded: raised on the turn with top 2

i like your play thus far, creed. looks fine.
on river, no way i am letting this guy off for a $200 showdown, raise and raise big.
i would make it 1K more, fvck him. A8 no good ho.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:03 AM
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I have a hard time believing that your opponent is actually a good player given how he played this hand.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:24 AM
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I have a hard time believing that your opponent is actually a good player given how he played this hand.

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He knows what he's doing, and he knows I know what I'm doing, and neither of us want to play huge pots against the other guy.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:24 AM
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I like this raise amount a lot. I was thinking I would have raised a lot more, but 400 more looks weird/good for a few reasons.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:26 AM
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never noviced this cake icon b4, thats ill.
happy birthday dog.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:57 AM
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thanks!
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:12 PM
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I would bet slightly more on flop/turn, raise slightly more on riv, but your line looks good. I expect A8 and whatnot pay off here.
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 shorthanded: raised on the turn with top 2

I made this type of river raise about a week ago with the 2nd nut flush on a paired board (the river flushed and paired the board at the same time). My opponent came over the top all in, I vomited all over my keyboard, folded, and then wished I had just called so I could see WTF his cards were.

Just call.
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 shorthanded: raised on the turn with top 2

calling river is awful. raise it up.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:16 AM
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2100 effective stacks. Opponent in this hand is solid, better than me shorthanded and heads-up. He's loose and capable of mixing it up, though against me he usually plays pretty ABC. Against me he likes to make a lot of small value bets and raises with big hands, since he knows that I don't call huge bets that often.

Villain is tilting a bit after losing a stack to a donkey, but he's in general quite capable of making laydowns.

4-handed. I make it 60 UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Villain calls from BB.

Flop:

A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain checks, I bet 70, villain calls.

Turn:

Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain checks, I bet 150, he makes it 350.



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I call the 350.

River is 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain pauses and bets $200. (This is one of those "small value bets" I was talking about, he likes to milk tight players.)

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I make it $600, villain pauses and calls.

Villain tables Q8, my hand is good.

In hindsight I think by throwing out such a weak bet with a decent hand he's committed to calling a normal-sized raise here, in case I view his bet as an invitation to blast him out with missed spades (or value bet my AK). So I think $1000 on the river is an ok size.

But if I blast turn and river, he probably gets out.

Villain leaves table immediately after this hand, I imagine he's pissed at how he played it. I give me a B and him a C+ mostly due to his preflop ????? call.
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