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Old 10-12-2005, 07:16 PM
nyc999 nyc999 is offline
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Default $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

I felt lost on this one. Early so no reads - please comment on pf and flop play:


NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee
Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, October 12, 19:08:52 EDT 2005
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Hero ( $785 )
Seat 5: katzz56 ( $775 )
Seat 4: Turtleburn ( $770 )
Seat 2: ISukkBad ( $800 )
Seat 6: Hobojoe918 ( $845 )
Seat 7: carlos5000 ( $800 )
Seat 3: Twinsfan1299 ( $785 )
Seat 9: Shoysted ( $800 )
Seat 8: Ace_playz ( $1640 )
Trny:16538395 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As Qs ]
Twinsfan1299 folds.
Turtleburn calls [15].
katzz56 folds.
Hobojoe918 folds.
carlos5000 calls [15].
Ace_playz calls [15].
Shoysted folds.
Hero calls [5].
ISukkBad checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 9s, Ts ]
Hero bets [40].
ISukkBad folds.
Turtleburn raises [200].
carlos5000 folds.
Ace_playz folds.
Hero...

I'm not sure about fold/call/push. If I call, what do I do if I miss on the turn?
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:14 PM
jedinite jedinite is offline
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Default Re: $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

what were you trying to accomplish with the 40 bet UTG?

its 160 to call and there's 315 in the pot - 1.97-1 to call, with 13 outs you've almost got the pure pot odds already to call (just for the turn alone), so you obviously can't fold.

You can certainly call and play some poker, but given that this is a $10+1 with 13 outs (and possibly more) I'd tend to just push.

Since your opponent obviously isn't manipulating pot odds to keep you out, if you call you're looking at pure odds (excluding any implied odds, which may not exist here) of 2.54 to 1. So from a pure pot odds perspective you'd be willing to call another 200 on the turn for the river.

Personally i'd push the flop every time - with thirteen clean outs you're 1.08 to 1 seeing the rest of the cards...
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

Pre-flop, it's reasonable to do a PVS here to try to punish the limpers. I'd raise it up to $100. Somebody re-raises, I fold. Somebody calls, let's play some poker.

Post-flop, you will be the favorite here against anything but a set or KQ, and you're not that far behind those. I push both because of that and because I want to make sure I see both cards.
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

Preflop I complete most of the time. I'm pushing his raise.
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

All you can eat, baby.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

Buh, I really don't know, but I don't mind the 40 bet at all.

If you take it down, fine.

If he calls, fine. You are building a pot where you are either a favorite or close and could stack him if you both hit.

If he raises to 200, you can push. You have at least 11 outs (some to a split) and possibly 18 outs, twice. (well you could be ahead already and have more).
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: $11: AQs in SB, flop OESD and Flush Draw

I completed because I really didn't like the idea of raising and playing the hand OOP with possibly multiple callers.

I bet the 40 exactly for the reasons mentioned by Microbet. It was 2/3 of the pot and I could either take it there or build a nice little pot.

I ended up calling the 200. The turn was a blank, I checked and villain also checked.

With the pot at 460, I hit my flush on the river. I wasn't sure what to put the villain on, so I bet 100. He called, took down a nice early pot.
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