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Old 09-17-2005, 08:27 PM
Yads Yads is offline
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Default Good application of way ahead way behind?

No reads of villain as he had just recently sat down

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:31 PM
whodaman whodaman is offline
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

seems fine, i like to raise the flop and bet the turn and check behind the river sometimes. Normally shows down for cheaper at 3/6. and you can definetly fold to a turn c/r.
Plus sometimes you get an ace to fold the turn.
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

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Plus sometimes you get an ace to fold the turn.

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What games have you been playing in?
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

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seems fine, i like to raise the flop and bet the turn and check behind the river sometimes. Normally shows down for cheaper at 3/6. and you can definetly fold to a turn c/r.
Plus sometimes you get an ace to fold the turn.

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3 things.

1.An ace is almost never folding here.
2.Raising the flop and leading the turn is a good way to either get threebet or have your turn lead raised.
3.If he has a worse hand why do u want him to fold.

I think the call down is fine here.
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

3/6 and 5/10 6max
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:02 PM
whodaman whodaman is offline
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

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3 things.

1.An ace is almost never folding here.

I dont agree. You guys would advise folding A8 and lower to this action no?

2.Raising the flop and leading the turn is a good way to either get threebet or have your turn lead raised.

If he 3 bets the flop you can fold the turn.
If he c/r the turn you can fold as well. Not many people would bluff c/r the turn against this action.

3.If he has a worse hand why do u want him to fold.

Well maybe because he could outdraw us.
I think the call down is fine here.

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Also you showdown cheaper my way when we are behind. The only thing is that you can get bluffed out but its very rare to get c/r bluffed on the turn at 3/6 6max given the action and I just doubt he is 3 betting the flop with any hand.
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

If you're going to raise the flop, I think a better line is to check the turn and call a river bet.
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:13 PM
whodaman whodaman is offline
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

not a bad idea at all.. you get more bluff bets but you let them draw free. you also never have to fold to a turn raise.
this depends on how aggressive your opponent is. vs an unknown 3/6 i like my line tho.
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Good application of way ahead way behind?

The pot isn't huge on the turn, so a free card isn't a disaster, you never get semi-bluffed off the best hand and don't miss a chance at a two-outer if behind.
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