you know you're at the right table when....(LC)

[yanicehand]

I've never had a hand posted that totally mystified me the way this one does. Every single line of action made me go "huh" and the explanation made me simply mouth the word "what?!" At first I thought this was one of those hands where the "hero" is the other player, and we all get tricked into thinking that the poster condones 3 betting with the sucker end of a very tainted straight draw in a 4 way capped pot. Now I'm just confused.

[Nietzsche]

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Yeah, I suck, but I just can't let go (of this thread that I totally regret posting now, lol).

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This is a dojo. We're all here to learn. When people attack your play with everything they've got it's a sign of respect.

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This should be carved in stone.

[meow_meow]

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1) You *do* need 25% equity on the flop to make raising correct in terms of EV.


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Are you sure about this? Assuming I'm going to have to show down the best hand, I think raising with less than 25% equity can be +EV if it:
1) thins the field
2) allows me to extract more bets when I do make the best hand by a- disguising my hand and b- making the pot big enough to induce donks to call more bets on the turn drawing super slim and/or make crying calls on the river.
3) allows me to take a free card on the turn.

Obviously this raise didn't accomplish (1) or (3), and probably not (2a) either, given the opposition.

You wouldn't suggest that you need 50% equity to bet the flop in position HU, why is this any different?

[Guy McSucker]

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I still like the 3-bet.
totally disguises my hand if I hit

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There is a very good reason that nobody who sees you 3-bet the flop will put you on the hand that you have. Think about why that might be.

Guy.

[Digs]

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You wouldn't suggest that you need 50% equity to bet the flop in position HU, why is this any different?

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I'd put your fold equity at about 0% here