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Old 11-18-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default river bluff with 77 at 50NL

9 handed, just sat down at a table, a few hands in, so no reads. villian has 115, hero has 50

preflop: fold, hero limps with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], fold around, SB raises to $1.50, BB folds, hero calls 1.00

pot ($3.50)

flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets $3, hero calls 3$

pot: ($9.50)

turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img])

SB bets $4, hero calls 4$ (for some reason I thought I still had the best hand here)

pot: ($17.50)

river: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img])

SB bets $6, which seemed weak, so I raised it to $18...

good spot to bluff?
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

The majority of the time this succeeds, you have the best hand anyways.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

If you don't believe him on the flop, raise to ~10.

What are you representing here on the river? slowplayed 3? maaybe... I believe Tx calls this way too often, same with alot of other hands
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

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If you don't believe him on the flop, raise to ~10.

What are you representing here on the river? slowplayed 3? maaybe... I believe Tx calls this way too often, same with alot of other hands

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I was representing a Q, since the Q came on the river and villian only bet $6 into a $17 pot. I thought he had either a smaller pair, AK, AJ, KJ, possibly even A10, but I think his turn bet would have been bigger if he had a Ten in his hand
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

I strongly doubt he gives you credit for a Q. As someone said before, you aren't getting many better hands to fold and all worse one's fold (so you would've gotten the pot anyway if you would've just called)
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

i didn't want to call on the chance that he has a pair of tens, 99 or 88, and if he had two overcards I felt that he would have checked on the river, so I raised so I wouldn't have to show down 77 and that he might fold a better hand. Is this correct to think this way, or was calling the river a better option.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

just realized the subject line is wrong, I guess raising with 77 isn't actually a bluff. anyhoo...
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

If you were raising with the sole intention of getting a better hand to fold, then you are infact bluffing.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

Raise the flop or the turn if you think you're ahead. As played, I would be calling you with AT - not giving you credit for the Q or the 3 because of how passively you played flop and turn.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: river bluff with 77 at 50NL

so you think I get called too many times when the opponent has AT, 88, 99, and he obviously folds everytime with two overcards like AK, AJ or KJ? What if I can get 88, and 99, to fold most of the time, along with KT and AT some of the time? What margin of error do I have for this kind of a raise?
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