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Old 05-10-2005, 01:36 AM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Would you push this?

NOTE--THE BLINDS ARE GOING UP ON THE VERY NEXT HAND.

Party $50.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

BB (t1335)
UTG (t655)
Hero (t830)
CO (t1430)
Button (t3220)
SB (t2530)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t830 (All-In)</font>
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: Would you push this?

This seems like an awfully easy question.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Would you push this?

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This seems like an awfully easy question.

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It is?

A couple of days ago I posted a thread where I pushed all-in with KJs from only one seat earlier with an almost identical stack and got an overwhelming response of 'no.' The only difference being I still had about 3 hands until the blinds went up. I can't see that these two hands are THAT far apart. That's why I'm asking.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:46 AM
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It is?

A couple of days ago I posted a thread where I pushed all-in with KJs from only one seat earlier with an almost identical stack and got an overwhelming response of 'no.' The only difference being I still had about 3 hands until the blinds went up. I can't see that these two hands are THAT far apart. That's why I'm asking.

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But it's soooted this time. JK

I don't remember the post, but I'll guess a couple of things.
So, in your other post, you'd get hit by the blinds right, but they'd only be t100, not t200. Is that right?
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:49 AM
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It is?

A couple of days ago I posted a thread where I pushed all-in with KJs from only one seat earlier with an almost identical stack and got an overwhelming response of 'no.' The only difference being I still had about 3 hands until the blinds went up. I can't see that these two hands are THAT far apart. That's why I'm asking.

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But it's soooted this time. JK

I don't remember the post, but I'll guess a couple of things.
So, in your other post, you'd get hit by the blinds right, but they'd only be t100, not t200. Is that right?

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No.

In the other hand I had KJsooooooted. I was one seat earlier. And I had about 70 more chips. The blinds still had 3-4 hands left though, I believe. Maybe 2. Maybe 5. I couldn't find the hand history.

Whatever the case, KJs is better than QJs. This I know.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:52 AM
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Whatever the case, KJs is better than QJs. This I know.

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This is your leak. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Then the difference is the blinds. Getting hit with t100 vs t200 is quite a difference, IMO. You can endure the first, but the latter is too painful.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:53 AM
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Whatever the case, KJs is better than QJs. This I know.

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This is your leak. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Then the difference is the blinds. Getting hit with t100 vs t200 is quite a difference, IMO. You can endure the first, but the latter is too painful.

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Okay. I can buy that.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:55 AM
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Okay. I can buy that.

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"You've got to believe."
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Would you push this?

with the blinds going up on the next hand and you being utg, doesnt it make sense to wait for the next hand and push any two? what is the difference between the range of hands you expect to be called with on this hand versus the next hand, and how much of an advantage does your qj have against an average hand (say T7)?
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Old 05-10-2005, 02:01 AM
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with the blinds going up on the next hand and you being utg, doesnt it make sense to wait for the next hand and push any two? what is the difference between the range of hands you expect to be called with on this hand versus the next hand, and how much of an advantage does your qj have against an average hand (say T7)?

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My fold equity goes down significantly with the next level. The blinds double. 8-1 becomes 4-1. If I'm another player, I look at a UTG pusher with 4BB as pushing almost any playable two. If I'm a big stack, I'm coming after them with a lot of hands. A6 or so +, any pair, and many more hands if I'm in the blinds.
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