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Old 10-27-2004, 09:58 PM
Saborion Saborion is offline
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Default Do they bet their flush draws?

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

No notes on MP1.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font> Now what? I suppose it comes down to how often they'll bet flush draw on the flop. Him being second last to act should make it more probable?
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

bump for saborion
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

I would fold in a pot this size
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:53 AM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

I think you probably need to call this bet in the 15/30. I can make an argument for raising too, but it's not a good one.

To answer your question - yes I think most players in this game are going to bet a four-flush in that spot.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

People rarely, if ever, lay down 4-flushes unless there is evidence to the contrary (ie plenty of action with a board pair).

You only have mid-pair mid-kicker. Chances are you've lost. I think you could lay this down 90% of the time. If you wanted a read on villain, a call isn't too bad either. A raise is silly if you're up against a likely Ax [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

I dislike the preflop limp.
I would expect to see more action from a flush draw, most likely a bet on a flop and check/raise on the turn.
I call this bet and although you're unlikely ahead i'd expect to see a king , a better 9 , 77 or 2 pair a lot more on the river than the flush.
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Old 10-28-2004, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

I would probably raise preflop but calling isn't bad either. I would call the river without a read.

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Old 10-28-2004, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

you are getting 6.5:1 closing the action. I call everytime here.
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Old 10-28-2004, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

how is that # important? at what #:1 do you not call?
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Do they bet their flush draws?

without notes or a read? probably at 5:1 I fold.
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