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Old 08-26-2005, 04:25 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

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iit's like -100BB over 25k hands or so

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this is the worst kind of running bad imo.

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Uhh, are you kidding? Have you been through a big downswing in a small amount of hands?

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yes.



but losing every day for an entire month is way worse. this was my entire july and it was a very sad month [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] i nearly quit poker. but fortunately the poker god's were just setting me up for august [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:26 PM
Transference Transference is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

Weird, I'm having the exact same break even streak at 400BB, mines a bit longer though.
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

I'm also not running very well at 5/10. After running about 2.8BB at 50k or so. But now I'm at less than 1BB for the last 30k hands or so. I'll post my graph when I get home.

Just need to stick it out, read some non poker strategy about how to deal with tilt, I put up a link in a thread in here recently. I think it had a lot of good material in it. Link
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

Yikes!

-400BB over 30K hands. How did you keep your sanity?
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

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I'm also not running very well at 5/10. After running about 2.8BB at 50k or so. But now I'm at less than 1BB for the last 30k hands or so. I'll post my graph when I get home.

Just need to stick it out, read some non poker strategy about how to deal with tilt, I put up a link in a thread in here recently. I think it had a lot of good material in it. Link

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yes, because running at +1BB/100 is the same as running at -300BB/6000hands
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

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Yikes!

-400BB over 30K hands. How did you keep your sanity?

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massive amounts of alcohol and illicit substances....
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

200+BB downswings really [censored] suck. They are a part of LHE though.

My advice would be:
Do some confidence interval exercises, review your hands, think deeply when you're playing, drop a table, meditate before you play, observe more, play shorter sessions, use better table selection.
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

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iit's like -100BB over 25k hands or so

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this is the worst kind of running bad imo.

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Uhh, are you kidding? Have you been through a big downswing in a small amount of hands?

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having been through both, 100BB in 25K hands is much much worse than 100BB in 2k hands. The latter just feels like variance, you can stop, start again and be fresh. 100BB in 25k hands in a long drawn out torture over which you wonder if you've completely forgotten how to play poker.
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Old 08-26-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

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iit's like -100BB over 25k hands or so

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this is the worst kind of running bad imo.

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Uhh, are you kidding? Have you been through a big downswing in a small amount of hands?

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having been through both, 100BB in 25K hands is much much worse than 100BB in 2k hands. The latter just feels like variance, you can stop, start again and be fresh. 100BB in 25k hands in a long drawn out torture over which you wonder if you've completely forgotten how to play poker.

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yeah, exactly
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Old 08-26-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t know how to play poker (variance q?)

What works for me after a big slide:

Drop limits.

Don't play your "A" game. This doesn't mean play bad just don't play the marginal hands. Its very easy for these hands to be -EV when sublte forms of tilt take over. Your goal is to start winning again, not improve your win rate. The hands can be added back after your "game" has returned.

Shorter sessions.

Quit after a modest win for a couple sessions. This is -EV long term but is psychologically benficial to log a couple wins after a bad run.

Change the sessions diplayed in PT to begin after the slide. Your trying to build confidence. There's no need to see the bad results, you know they are there.

Use PokerAce. The mucked hand feature helps you realize how many times players call with junk and don't suck out on you.
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