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Old 09-17-2004, 01:14 AM
reecelights reecelights is offline
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Default Re: Poll: Call or fold

Fold. I used to make a lot of Level 1 calls thinking "It's only 30 chips." Problem is, four of those calls in the first level and you've lost close to 15% of your stack hoping for a miracle. You've read the other posts about catching and still losing.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:21 AM
chill888 chill888 is offline
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Strange question lol Fold! If you had KJo you should still fold. (name a flop you like with KJ against 5 players).

TIGHT to start much, much, much tighter if you are considering limiping here with that hand.,
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Old 09-17-2004, 06:14 AM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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Have to disagree with you there chill.

This isnt a question of domination, but pure pot odds. He is getting 10:1 from the pot. A call here with KJ is allmost obligotory in my book. Its only 30 chips so also the implied odds are big.

The key to success is to only play the flop if it hits hard.
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Old 09-17-2004, 06:23 AM
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Have to disagree with you there chill.

This isnt a question of domination, but pure pot odds. He is getting 10:1 from the pot. A call here with KJ is allmost obligotory in my book. Its only 30 chips so also the implied odds are big.

The key to success is to only play the flop if it hits hard.

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You limp with KJ against 5 others. You hit flop hard and someone bets before you:

KJ10? Now what?
K102 Now what?
Q107? Now what?
KQ8? Now what?
JJQ? now what (ok RAISE lol)
J107? Now what?
K109?
AKJ?
AK2?

They are all hands designed to make you go broke and it's still early and I could use the 30 (especially in a party style structure). You may be right Pasty, but you need to be a very good post flop player.
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Old 09-17-2004, 06:29 AM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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Not many of the flops you mention are exactly hitting hard. Quite softly infact.

Id be looking for.

TQA [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] (The implied odds on this are huge)
xKK
xJJ
xKJ

Those are the only flops I would consider playing.
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