how badly did i play this?

[pryor15]

i suspect very badly. no reads. new to table. the crying call at the river is in case he just has an ace.

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Preflop: pryor15 is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, pryor15 calls, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
pryor15 checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, pryor15 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
pryor15 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">pryor15 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, CO calls, pryor15 calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
pryor15 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, CO folds, pryor15 calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

[Vote4Pedro]

I don't like your call on the flop, but the rest seems fine. I like the turn c/r, I just don't know how to handle it from that point on...

[Dave G.]

I fold the flop. You don't have 5 full outs on this board. A 7 likely gives you the best hand, but any K puts 3 broadway on the board for straight possibilites. The K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] puts straight AND flush possibilities on the board. And if a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] doesn't come in on the turn, your opponents still have a redraw to one on the river.

I'd give your 7s and your Ks 1.5 outs each. I'd give 0.5 outs for the BD straight, because the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] put the same flush possiblities on the board.

So you have 3.5 outs. You need about 12:1 to call here. Getting only 7.5:1, this is an easy fold.

Turn looks good. River is close, but I'd probably call it too. He liked his hand enough to bet the flop from EP so he may not have the flush.

[gharp]

I'd say you can fold on that flop. You're getting 6.5:1 to draw to 4 clean outs that might even need to be discounted further.

What on earth is CO doing in this hand!? Gutshot?

[milesdyson]

you're getting 6.5:1 on the flop with bottom pair and tainted two pair outs. your K does not look that pretty falling on an AJ7 board, and plus there are two clubs out there.

you have about ~4 outs on the flop (2 full for the 7s and 2 discounted outs for the Ks). check fold is the play.

edit: okay, a bunch of people beat me to it and we're all saying the same thing.

[sholvar]

check/fold flop, or bet/fold flop, depending on the chances that everybody folds. 5 players without more information = check/fold.

[bozlax]

Ok, I give this up on the flop. Bottom pair on a 2-suited, 2-broadway flop is not a good place to be drawing to 5 outs. You're not getting the odds on any street to draw to what you need to beat what's showing on the board (on the flop you're getting 6-1 drawing against a better pair, 6-1 on the turn drawing against a flush, and I don't think you're good 1 time in 14 on the river).

[silkyslim]

fold on the flop

[milesdyson]

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fold on the flop

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just wanted to bump this post to see if anyone else wants to say this, too.

[trying2learn]

betting on the flop is the only other option to check/folding the flop. would have been interesting to see what CO did then.