Anyone have Exact Chip Counts of the Raymer vs. Kanter hand?

[Kyle Stark]

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ummmmmmm, still no answer to the initial question. Anyone have the episode tivoed that could figure out the chip counts.

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easiest thing to do would to be go to card player, I'm sure they still have the live updates up.

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The Actual Hand:

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Hand 20 - Ayhan Alsancak has the button in seat 5, Raymer raises, and Kanter calls. The flop comes 6c-5d-3h, and there's a bet and a call. The turn card is the 7h, Kanter bets $600,000, and the two players are quickly all in. Raymer shows pocket kings (Kd-Kh), and Kanter has Qh-Jh. Kanter has a flush draw, and needs to catch a heart to win the pot. The river card is the 2h, and Kanter makes his flush to double up through Greg Raymer.

Kanter's supporters are ecstatic, and cheering loudly, but the rest of the room is nearly silent as crowd-favorite Greg Raymer loses a huge pot. You can distinctly hear the cheers, but the silence in the rest of the room is almost overpowering. Aaron Kanter now has somewhere between $3.5 and $4 million, while Greg Raymer is crippled down to about $400,000.

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3 hand later chip count

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Seat 1: Greg Raymer - $415,000
Seat 2: Tim Phan - $1,500,000
Seat 3: Aaron Kanter - $3,780,000
Seat 5: Ayhan Alsancak - $1,100,000
Seat 6: Phil Ivey - $2,815,000
Seat 7: Joseph Hachem - $4,630,000
Seat 8: Andrew Black - $3,385,000
Seat 9: Joe Connor - $1,700,000

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I just saw on ESPN. Raymer bets $100K PF, called. Raymer bets $150K on flop, called. Raymer bets $300K on turn, raised to $900K to go, then Raymer moves AI, called.

This comes for ESPN.

Greg H.

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I just saw on ESPN. Raymer bets $100K PF, called. Raymer bets $150K on flop, called. Raymer bets $300K on turn, raised to $900K to go, then Raymer moves AI, called.

This comes for ESPN.

Greg H.

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Thank you, for the guy telling me to read cardplayer did you notice that I included the cardplayer report in the original post? Doesn't inlcude very in depth action now does it.

PREFLOP:

Ok so that means preflop Greg had around 2.3 mil and Kanter had close to 1.9 mil. Not sure what the blinds were but I would guess after Raymer's Raise and Kanter's call there was around 230k in the pot going to the flop.

FLOP: 6,5,3 with one heart

Raymer leads for 150k on the flop, about a 2/3 pot bet, not bad in this situation. Kanter calls, which I will never understand. This means that he put in 250k, 13% of his stack, with no pair on the flop with QJ and a backdoor flush draw against a very good/aggressive player that is hard to move off hands. I can not think of any plan he had at this point going to the turn.

TURN: 7h

POT is 525k Raymer Again makes a 3/5th pot bet inducing Kanter to come over the top since Greg must feel Kanter is in with a Pocket Pair 88-JJ to call the flop. This can be debated, with one pair Greg maybe should have looked to lock this down on the turn with the draws out there. Pot is now 830k to Kanter.

Kanter Reraises a little over the pot to 900k, 600 more to Greg. Pot is 1725, and Greg pushes in making it 700k or so more to Kanter. Kanter needs to call 750k to win the 3.1 million in the pot getting 4-1 on his call. Odds of hitting his flush draw with one card to come is about 5-1 so he didn't quite have pot odds but it was close and maybe he didn't want to play on crippled w/ only 750k.

RIVER: 2H

Kanter scoops a HUGE 3.8 mill pot

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The odds of him hitting a flush with one card to come is not 5 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1(High 3.) If he thinks Raymer doesn't have a heart then it's almost 3 to 1 (Low 3.)

[Toro]

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The odds of him hitting a flush with one card to come is not 5 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1(High 3.) If he thinks Raymer doesn't have a heart then it's almost 3 to 1 (Low 3.)

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Where did you come up with your numbers. I just ran it and if Raymer doesn't have a heart he's 4.18 to 1

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The odds of him hitting a flush with one card to come is not 5 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1(High 3.) If he thinks Raymer doesn't have a heart then it's almost 3 to 1 (Low 3.)

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9 outs, 46 cards in the deck, he doesn't know Raymer's cards. 1/5 cards are a heart, not that hard.

[SoloAJ]

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The odds of him hitting a flush with one card to come is not 5 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1(High 3.) If he thinks Raymer doesn't have a heart then it's almost 3 to 1 (Low 3.)

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9 outs, 46 cards in the deck, he doesn't know Raymer's cards. 1/5 cards are a heart, not that hard.

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It's actually just OVER 4:1, not just Under...

[A_C_Slater]

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The odds of him hitting a flush with one card to come is not 5 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1(High 3.) If he thinks Raymer doesn't have a heart then it's almost 3 to 1 (Low 3.)

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9 outs, 46 cards in the deck, he doesn't know Raymer's cards. 1/5 cards are a heart, not that hard.

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It's actually just OVER 4:1, not just Under...

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Yes, sorry my mistake. But it ain't 5 to 1. Kanter was getting correct odds to call is my point. Which makes me wonder why he didn't just push the turn to begin with and increase his fold equity.

[A_C_Slater]

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The odds of him hitting a flush with one card to come is not 5 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1(High 3.) If he thinks Raymer doesn't have a heart then it's almost 3 to 1 (Low 3.)

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9 outs, 46 cards in the deck, he doesn't know Raymer's cards. 1/5 cards are a heart, not that hard.

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It's actually just OVER 4:1, not just Under...

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Actually any 4 makes a split so it's closer and Kanter has more outs to a split than just a straight flush draw. (I don't have pokerstove so I don't know the exact numbers)

[A_C_Slater]

"So you're saying you should never call on the flop intending to bet on the turn, really? Wow." --Jordon Berkowitz responding to an announcer's results oreinted commentary that said his flop call with nothing and failed turn bluff was "stupid" during the WCOOP Main event.