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Old 12-02-2005, 05:12 AM
nicky g nicky g is offline
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"The Koran advocates war and violence to convert unbelievers"

No, it doesn't.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: The Crusades

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"The Koran advocates war and violence to convert unbelievers"

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No, it doesn't.

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"9.123 O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness"

"9.5 So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush,then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them;surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

But hey if they conquer you and you convert you get to live. What a deal!
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Old 12-02-2005, 10:26 AM
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"9.123 O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness"

"9.5 So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush,then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them;surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."


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But hey if they conquer you and you convert you get to live. What a deal!

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You could also possibly escape death by promising to never do anything to offend Islam or Muslims, paying an extortionate poll tax, and accepting a legal status that is secondary to Muslims in many important aspects.
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