Open-limping on the button/cutoff

[AJo Go All In]

a lot of european name players did this in a major tournament i played in. i never ever do this. please explain why i should or should not, thank you.

[schwza]

i also never open-limp from the CO/button in cash or tourney. i posted a thread about it cash games a little while ago here

[bugstud]

I would only do it with special table dynamics

[MLG]

I don't think this is a bad play relatively early in tournaments. The thinking is probably something like this: The blinds are pretty small as compared to my stack, so I don't feel the need to steal them. I play better than the blinds post flop, so I will make better decisions than them. I will limp here in the hopes that I can take a bigger pot away from them later in the hand. I'll do it early on, my cut off is somewhere between 30-40x

[schwza]

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I don't think this is a bad play relatively early in tournaments. The thinking is probably something like this: The blinds are pretty small as compared to my stack, so I don't feel the need to steal them. I play better than the blinds post flop, so I will make better decisions than them. I will limp here in the hopes that I can take a bigger pot away from them later in the hand. I'll do it early on, my cut off is somewhere between 30-40x

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but i think that one way that people play badly is that they defend their blind with an ok hand and then check-fold when they miss.

i'm also worried it defines your hand too much. when i see that pre-flop action, i put the limper on a J7s-type hand. something mediocre, often suited.

[MLG]

I'll open limp in that spot with the same range I'd open raise with, (well minus the top top hands I guess). It depends on the blinds. If they defend to much and then check-fold then yes open limping is wrong.

[Ulysses]

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i also never open-limp from the CO/button in cash or tourney. i posted a thread about it cash games a little while ago here

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i open-limp all the time
the tougher and deeper the game
the more i do it you'll find

[Pulplife]

[/ QUOTE ]i open-limp all the time
the tougher and deeper the game
the more i do it you'll find

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Can you expand on your thinking?

[Cleveland Guy]

It's a great mix it up play - but I think it only works when players know you, and know your style a bit.

There was a WSOP episode (not the main event), where the eventual winner open limped on the button. He has the BB so confused that the BB ended up throwing away the winner when bet into.

I'm sorry I can't remember the episode, but it showed the power of the open limp.

[MLG]

that was Gavin when they were 3 handed.