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Old 11-27-2004, 07:02 PM
sublime sublime is offline
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Default Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

location: party 15
hands: 6900
BB w/l: -161

So i know this is a just a somewhat typical downswing. i also am confident i can beat the 15, i have seen enough whacked out raises and calls to smell the benjamins. this is just my worst downswing ever, so i guess what i am looking for is some reassurance that this is somewhat normal and i have not forgot how to play poker [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

fwiw, i have tightened up a good amount and only have a VPIP of 15%.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

Sublime:
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Read idiotic posts
Laugh and wonder how much i lose playing poker.

Here are my stats for B&M this year:
Average BB: 12.88
Hours played: 311.3
Total Profit: 7816
BB/hr: 1.95
$/hr: 25.11

If i can do this, you will be winningagain soon.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

just because youre on a downswing doesnt mean you should be tightening up to 15%. get yourself back to 19 and then i can give you some reassurance.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

i havent tightened up because i have been on a downswing. i tightened up beacuse the game is so aggressive i dont play speculative hands up front.
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

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get yourself back to 19 and then i can give you some reassurance.

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Why? Do you honestly think that it's not possible to win without a VP$IP of less than 19%?
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

should i change the name of the post to:

"Hi my name is _________, and like sublime have had streaks of -160BB's and worse at the party 15, i would like to add that he will be fine" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:24 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

kevin, his vpip is at 15%, not above 19%. of course he can win with a vpip above or below 19%, but i dont feel comfortable reassuring him of being a winning player if his vpip is not on par with other winning players in this forum.
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:58 PM
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Default typical hand from the downswing

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 13 BB, between MP2 and Hero.</font>

mp2 turns over A2o of course
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Downswing blues (no hand, just need confidence boost)

But there are winning players (doing quite well), with a vpip LOWER than 15%. Personally, I think too much is made of vpip. Playing too many hands can certainly make you a loser... Not playing enough hands, can keep you from winning what you should... But rarely will playing too tightly before the flop turn anyone into a loser unless they are being ridiculous. I do believe playing too tightly AFTER the flop can turn you into a loser however. IMO-
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: typical hand from the downswing

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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.


[/ QUOTE ]

Anyone else muck this preflop?
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