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Old 11-02-2005, 06:55 PM
dopp16 dopp16 is offline
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Default i know its standard but....

15/30

Villain is tight passive, so you can imagine my concern

Hero is BB with AQ

3 limpers, SB completes, hero checks

Flop: A Q 7 rainbow

SB checks, Hero bets, 1 call, 1 fold, Raise, Hero 3-bets, first caller folds, raiser caps, hero calls

turn: blank

Hero bets, villain raises, hero calls

river: J

hero checks, villain bets, hero calls
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

Raise preflop.
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

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Raise preflop.

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Rest is standard.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

I probably raise preflop about half the time here...at this point I had been running hot and playing aggressive preflop so I decided to throttle it down this hand
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

I like this reasoning. I agree this is a hand you need to raise out of the blind sometimes, and not raise other times.

One factor is that by raising pf you improve your post-flop equity against many hands that will (correctly or incorrectly) fold to agression instead of sucking out. I think this somewhat counters the odds they get from the bloated pot to chase gutshot draws, etc.

Postflop, I think I play the hand same as you did. I hit a similar hand at 3/6 yesterday and took the pot from a fish who had also flopped 2 pair with A-rag.
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Old 11-03-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

I don't think that it is a raise 100 percent of the time....If it was suited then it is an autoraise....although I may check that about 10 percent of the time
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

5-handed with AQo OOP, is that such an easy raise?
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

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5-handed with AQo OOP, is that such an easy raise?

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5-handed, yes. You are very rarely up against any hands dominating yours, and many of your opponents certainly have worse/dominated hands. Easy value raise.
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

But AQo is a hand that is dropping in value in multiway pots. Even if the five opponents are limping only moderate hands you only got 2-5% equity edge or something. But you are drawing the line at 5-handed in this spot right?
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: i know its standard but....

Im testing with some combos at http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_odds...ldem/index.php
Hmm.. Its not that clear you got an edge at all. When i tried some combo it had only 16%, not dominated and only limping hands by the opponents.
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