oesd and the board pairs on the turn

[Bodhi]

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

UTG is tight aggressive. The players in late position are very bad; too loose and aggressive at the wrong times (I've played with them before).

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero ???

I'd have to give myself at least 7 outs to call 2 cold on the turn. Assuming I won't get 3bet, do I call? Drawing to straights and flushes on seemingly harmless paired boards has been hazardous in a number of previous hands.

Btw, this looks like a pretty loose preflop call, but with all the dead money from the posters it seemed Ok. Let me know if the preflop limp is bad.

[HolyBejeesus]

Don't raise the flop. You can call the turn.

[jt1]

Flop raise is successful! I'd be afraid to push others out of the pot.

Turn: I fold for the reasons you already aware of. 3 bet possibility, no re-raise potential should you hit, may be drawing dead, 4 of your outs may be dead.

To be technical, the pot is laying you about 8-1 with the implied odds, and I'd give myself 6.5 outs which makes it a clear call. But the reverse implied are too scary for me.

[Bodhi]

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Flop raise is successful! I'd be afraid to push others out of the pot.

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As I said, the late position players are very bad. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Good analysis of the turn situation.