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Old 10-16-2005, 11:52 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Getting aggro in a $50

No strong read on villain, he'd been playing at least somewhat tight (we're only 20 hands in).
I'd been playing quite tight.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1795)
CO (t855)
Hero (t1305)
SB (t695)
BB (t1548)
UTG (t1617)
UTG+1 (t935)
MP1 (t1250)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB (thinks for about 8 seconds and) calls t100.

Flop: (t325) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t400</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero is all in (t1155)</font>

It was clear that he wanted me out of the pot and was uneasy about his hand (77/JT maybe). So it logically follows that I push. All good?

Everett
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

I think you're getting carried away here. You might be right, but I'd fold on the flop.
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

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I think you're getting carried away here. You might be right, but I'd fold on the flop.

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Well, do you think he could be betting many stronger hands like this, or that he won't release his marginal ones, or both?
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

I think he'll call with any jack or flush draw.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

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I think he'll call with any jack or flush draw.

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Do you call with KJ here? QJ? JT?

AJ is a very valid concern. And since most players aren't the type to make strong probe bets like this, 77ish hands can be somewhat discounted. An unfoldable A-high diamond draw is also possible but there are far fewer combos of that than one pair hands. Perhaps 1200 isn't enough to convince him to fold a non-premium jack.

What if we'd both had 1800ish chips on the flop instead of 1200? I think in that case he can get away from almost all of his possible holdings save AJ.

Everett

P.S. Results:<font color="white"> I got called pretty quickly by QJc and proceeded to runner runner a K high flush. I play g00t.</font>
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:36 AM
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Do you call with KJ here? QJ? JT?

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Just because you wouldn't, doesn't mean he won't.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

If you both had 1800 chips, I'd flat call the flop, expect him to check/bet weak on a scary turn (Q, K, A, diamond) and push.
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

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I think he'll call with any jack or flush draw.

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Do you call with KJ here? QJ? JT?

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If I played the hand like this, which I wouldn't, yes I would call. Look at the price he is getting. On top of that it doesn't matter what we would do all that much, because this forum is much better than the average $55 player. There are alot of bad players calling you with a lot there. I think I've seen you around mid-high and that you play fairly high (correct me if I'm wrong), but this sort of FPS will not fly in the 55's, I promise you.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:15 AM
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problen is that you do not have enough chips to push him out if he is on a drawing hand.
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Getting aggro in a $50

I'll elaborate. A bet that is larger than the size of the pot is often protecting a vulnerable hand. I think a bet of this size is unlikely to be a probe bet. AJ is my best guess.
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