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11-05-2005, 06:28 PM
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Trouble understanding this from Ciaffone/Reuben\'s book
Reading Reuben/Ciaffone's <u>PL & NL Poker</u>, and am having trouble understanding the following example from page 22.
"...suppose there is $5k in the pot. You are first to act with unlimited funds. Sid follows w/unlimited funds and Dave is last to speak holding $8k. If you are very strong, you should bet more than $4k. This way Sid knows that if Dave raises all-in, you would not be able reraise. He [Sid] is thus more likely to call. " My question: why does Sid know this and why couldn't/wouldn't you reraise to build a side pot? It then goes on to say that if you're weak, the play is to bet less than $4k b/c Sid may pass b/c he could be facing 2 raises now. Somebody help school the Omaha noob please. 
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11-05-2005, 07:43 PM
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Re: Trouble understanding this from Ciaffone/Reuben\'s book
Well, if you have a very strong hand that is likely the favorite, you want Sid calling. If Sid is smart, he knows that if Dave reraises, it will not open the raising, so he will be able to call here with far weaker hands than he normally would, for example, an OE straight draw. This is good for you if you have a very strong hand.
On the other hand if you have a weaker hand that is likely to be beating Dave or has a very good chance to, you can shut Sid out of the pot with a smaller bet since if you bet < $4000, Sid calls, and Dave raises, you can throw down a massive reraise that will effectively shut him out of the pot. In the first scenario you are getting Sid to call a bet without effective odds, which is very good for you. In the second, you are possibly shutting him out with a better hand or draw since your less than $4000 bet is basically a huge bet if it is known that Dave will raise.
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#3
11-06-2005, 12:18 AM
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Re: Trouble understanding this from Ciaffone/Reuben\'s book
[ QUOTE ]
Reading Reuben/Ciaffone's <u>PL & NL Poker</u>, and am having trouble understanding the following example from page 22. "...suppose there is $5k in the pot. You are first to act with unlimited funds. Sid follows w/unlimited funds and Dave is last to speak holding $8k. If you are very strong, you should bet more than $4k. This way Sid knows that if Dave raises all-in, you would not be able reraise. He [Sid] is thus more likely to call. " My question: why does Sid know this and why couldn't/wouldn't you reraise to build a side pot? It then goes on to say that if you're weak, the play is to bet less than $4k b/c Sid may pass b/c he could be facing 2 raises now. Somebody help school the Omaha noob please. [/ QUOTE ] It is a typical rule at NL and PL that if a player doesn't make at least the minimum raise when going all in, then the betting is not reopened. So, if you bet $4000 then the player with $8000 goes all in, he has made exactly a minimum raise and you could now make a full reraise since the betting has been reopened. If on the other hand you bet $4001 then the player with $8000 goes all in, then he has only raised $3999 which is less than the minimum raise of $4001, so the betting would not be reopened and you would only have the option to call when the action comes back to you.
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