Great turn gets raised in front of me

imported_leader · #1 08-28-2005, 01:25 AM

UTG is loose and passive
CO is a little tighter but generally passive post flop

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

I probably should have raised PF here, you think?

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

I didn't want to inflate the pot here. Depending on the turn I was planning to call or raise.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, CO raises, Hero...

Holy crap! I hit the best card for my hand and now I got two passive players betting in to me. So what do I do?

ghostface · #2 08-28-2005, 03:08 AM

Raise preflop. I'd probably cry on the turn and do something at random, either fold, call, or raise and have no idea why.

dealer_toe · #3 08-28-2005, 03:45 AM

raise the turn, you've done nothing to show strength. I'm raised this PF. Continue your plan and 3bet the turn. If you were the aggressor and this happend...I'd still 3 bet.

MVicuna · #4 08-28-2005, 04:45 AM

Hi,

Since when did Ace-rag-suited become a raising hand?

There are very few flops that you like and loose passive players aren't going any where with any piece of the board and Ace-Rag isn't a showdown hand.

Don't raise preflop. Raising the flop is marginal as it can't protect your hand.

If CO is as loose as you say, 3 betting here is right. Its usually a much worse two pair.

You've probably should pay off a cap and a river bet, unless one of the other players wakes up on the river.

Later,
MarkV.

setjes · #5 08-28-2005, 05:18 AM

raising preflop is standard

imported_leader · #6 08-28-2005, 05:22 AM

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Since when did Ace-rag-suited become a raising hand?

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While ago. with loose plays that are limping like J7o or Q3s, which isn't uncommon in 6m, it's a good move.

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There are very few flops that you like and loose passive players aren't going any where with any piece of the board and Ace-Rag isn't a showdown hand.

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You'd be surprised how many pots it takes down against very loose players.

Poldi · #7 08-28-2005, 11:50 AM

It´s not a PF-raise for me and I would 3bet the turn.