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08-15-2005, 07:11 PM
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Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
I win with all other final hands according to PT except one pair hands over 15k hands, which I have lost $1109. It is obvious I am overplaying/misplaying these hands terribly. I have a hard time differentiating between value betting these hands agianst a lower kicker and getting screwed over by a bigger hand. How do you guys deal with these hands? Play em strong then drop them to any resistance? Please help me plug this horrible leak. I will try to post some hands but any general or sitiuational advice would be greatly appreciated. Some PT stats on One pair. total times: 5617, saw flop: 1736, folded flop 554, folded turn: 256, folded river: 147, went to SD:289, won $ hands: 609, won money at SD: 40%, % of total hands 43. I know 15k is a small sample but I need to stop the bleeding now.
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#2
08-15-2005, 07:26 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
what levels?
in 100 and 200nl through 15000 hands i am losing 1500 with one pair hands. When compared to just my high card hands i've lost 1600. Thats only a difference of 100, which is pretty piss poor. and i've only won $36 with 2 pair-they always seem to get busted. my 1 pair stats are (in same order) total-4403 saw flop-1104 fold flop-91 fold turn-49 fold river-31 showdown-169 winning %- 52 total %-14.6
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#3
08-15-2005, 07:26 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
shouldn't you be losing with one pair? it would seem to me that would include all the times you call a pfr with a small pair and miss your set and fold, or semi-bluff a pair and a flush draw and miss etc. i just think its a misleading stat. please correct me if i misunderstood something.
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#5
08-15-2005, 07:27 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
Fold one pair to a raise. Always. Problem solved. You don't tell us what games you play in, though, which would be very helpful for giving you some more in-depth comments.
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#6
08-15-2005, 10:50 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
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Fold one pair to a raise. Always. [/ QUOTE ] TWP, do you do this? If so, would you still do it playing 25NL?
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#7
08-15-2005, 11:06 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
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[ QUOTE ] Fold one pair to a raise. Always. [/ QUOTE ] TWP, do you do this? If so, would you still do it playing 25NL? [/ QUOTE ] OMFG, yes. At NL25 it is actually correct strategy. No, I don't still do this. But I don't still play NL25 either. At NL200 it is not correct strategy (although it is still very close to correct, IMO) but at NL25-NL100 I think it is actually correct or VERY close to correct. People ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE with worse than one pair. Unless you have a specfic read to the contrary.
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#8
08-15-2005, 11:26 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Fold one pair to a raise. Always. [/ QUOTE ] TWP, do you do this? If so, would you still do it playing 25NL? [/ QUOTE ] OMFG, yes. At NL25 it is actually correct strategy. No, I don't still do this. But I don't still play NL25 either. At NL200 it is not correct strategy (although it is still very close to correct, IMO) but at NL25-NL100 I think it is actually correct or VERY close to correct. People ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE with worse than one pair. Unless you have a specfic read to the contrary. [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like a nice, simple rule to follow, but are there exceptions? What about this hand: No reads. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter BB ($7.65) UTG ($22.15) UTG+1 ($14.95) MP1 ($26.60) Hero ($39.85) MP3 ($10) CO ($5.55) Button ($9.85) SB ($10) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($4.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>
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#9
08-15-2005, 11:37 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
Fold.
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#10
08-15-2005, 07:28 PM
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Re: Losing $1.1k on One Pair Hands
My general rule is this: If my pair is lower then the highest card on the flop its a fold. Unless I have reason to believe a bet here will take down the pot. Or I flopped trips.
22-TT (and JJ often) is a 'no set, no bet' type hand most of the time.
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