Position, Is it REALLY that important in some games.

[pzhon]

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the players behind me don't fold to my "obvious show of strength", ...showing strength does not matter compared to the possibility that they may hit that third duce on the river.

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Do you understand that you want players to call to the river in multiway pots with unimproved low pairs? My idea of success is winning money. It's not winning pots. It's not geting my opponents to fear me enough that they stop trying to give me their money.

Until we agree on this, I don't think we can have a meaningful discussion of position, but position still makes a huge difference in soft games. Position lets you get paid off much more when your hand is good. Position lets you get away cheaply when passive players wake up in front of you.