Funny O'Reilly Moment

[elwoodblues]

Heard this on Franken's show. Pretty funny.

When interview one of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, O'Reilly discussed his credentials as follows:

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You volunteered for two tours of duty, so you're a patriot. There's no question about that. You're a Purple Heart recipient...

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Anyone else spot the irony of saying a swifty is a patriot because he volunteered for service and was a recipient of a purple heart?

[Felix_Nietsche]

Not really.....Did Bill O'Reilly say John Kerry was not patriotic?

If you can show me a quote where Bill said John Kerry was not patriotic, then I will concede your point. But...I don't think such a quote exists....

[elwoodblues]

So the swifties go to great lengths to discredit Kerry's service. They attack whether he deserved his purple heartss (note that they obviously don't believe the existence of a medal or voluntary service made Kerry a patriot.)

Now, evidence of one of their member's patriotism is, you guessed it: voluntary service and purple heart.

I guess your irony detector isn't as strong as mine.

[Wake up CALL]

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I guess your irony detector isn't as strong as mine.


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Not only that there is zero irony involved. Perhaps a definition might be in order. Hint: For even a smidgen of irony the Swift boat veteran would need to be the one claiming to be a patriot (using the specified criteria) not Bill O'Reilly by proxy.

[elwoodblues]

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Not only that there is zero irony involved. Perhaps a definition might be in order

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Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs

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Still works for me. What definition did you want to use?

[Wake up CALL]

I do believe that for something to be ironic (using the archaic rarely used definition which you chose) it must be intrinsically ironic and not dependent on the perspective of the observer. Your example fails this test.

[Felix_Nietsche]

Patriotism is defined as love of country....
Many Americans questioned John Kerry's 'love of country' (patriotism) by his actions AFTER the Vietnam war....

As for the purple hearts, many of his 'band of brothers' were highly critical about whether he deserved some of his purple hearts.... It takes a special talent, to alienate so many people in just four months of combat....

No one questions the swift boat vet credentials...... And no questions Bush43's love of country...

[elwoodblues]

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No one questions the swift boat vet credentials

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You're getting closer...some assume that a swifty is patriot because of his service and purple heart. The same assumption isn't made of a liberal who went on to serve his country in other capacities for much of his life.

[Broken Glass Can]

Did he say this vet got his Purple Heart for minor scratches?

If not, then it is not comparable.

Did this vet turn against the common soldier when he returned to the states?

If not, then it is not comparable.

[elwoodblues]

Didn't say it was comparable. I said it was ironic.