My typical day

ScottTheFish · #1 11-17-2005, 01:58 AM

I'll say it again. 4 or 5 hours a week of interaction with other kids away form home is GREAT. NECESSARY. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I never said it wasn't. All daycare is not bad. Read that again. I agree with you there.

But that's not what happens. They're there ALL DAY. EVERY DAY. 40 hours a week. Sometimes more. And it's not so they learn social skills and build their immune system. Those are rationalizations.

They are there so their parents can work more and afford
better cars and a nicer house.

Yes there are single parents, etc. that have no choice. Families with 2 young healthy educated parents can live on 1 income if they choose to. That's who I'm talking about.

Freudian · #2 11-17-2005, 02:02 AM

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I'll say it again. 4 or 5 hours a week of interaction with other kids away form home is GREAT. NECESSARY. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I never said it wasn't. All daycare is not bad. Read that again. I agree with you there.

But that's not what happens. They're there ALL DAY. EVERY DAY. 40 hours a week. Sometimes more. And it's not so they learn social skills and build their immune system. Those are rationalizations.

They are there so their parents can work more and afford
better cars and a nicer house.

Yes there are single parents, etc. that have no choice. Families with 2 young healthy educated parents can live on 1 income if they choose to. That's who I'm talking about.

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Women in the workplace. Who came up with that crazy idea?
Not like the good old days. Those selfish evil women should know their place.

ScottTheFish · #3 11-17-2005, 02:18 AM

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Women in the workplace. Who came up with that crazy idea?
Not like the good old days. Those selfish evil women should know their place.

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Nice sarcasm. Did you even read my post? Where did I say women shouldn't work? My wife works while my son is at school.

And yes I do think choosing money over time with your baby is selfish. And yes I think 40 hours a week with the mom and 10 hours in daycare is better than the other way around, but hey, I'm just old fashioned like that.

Freudian · #4 11-17-2005, 02:23 AM

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Women in the workplace. Who came up with that crazy idea?
Not like the good old days. Those selfish evil women should know their place.

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Nice sarcasm. Did you even read my post? Where did I say women shouldn't work? My wife works while my son is at school.

And yes I do think choosing money over time with your baby is selfish. And yes I think 40 hours a week with the mom and 4 or 5 hours in daycare is better than the other way around, but hey, I'm just old fashioned like that.

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And what if the money the mother earns is the difference between a university education or not for the child when he get older. Is her actions still selfish? What about if it makes the difference between great and poor healthcare for the child? Is it still selfish?

You don't have to point out that you are old fashioned. Your Eisenhower era views were obvious from the first post you made in this thread.

ScottTheFish · #5 11-17-2005, 02:36 AM

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And what if the money the mother earns is the difference between a university education or not for the child when he get older. Is her actions still selfish? What about if it makes the difference between great and poor healthcare for the child? Is it still selfish?

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Well, there are plenty of ways to play for college when the time comes. Loans, grants, financial aid, or even working and paying for their own college like I did.

The health care or other financial hardship is a fair point. I already said some people don't have a choice, mom has to work. So how about this novel idea: Mom works at night while dad is home, or vice versa. I just blew your mind, right?

Sure the parents don't see each other as much, but they're not babies who need constant attention and teaching. They'll be fine.

Surely you'd agree that's preferable to having the kid spend 8 hours a day in day care.

Freudian · #6 11-17-2005, 02:46 AM

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And what if the money the mother earns is the difference between a university education or not for the child when he get older. Is her actions still selfish? What about if it makes the difference between great and poor healthcare for the child? Is it still selfish?

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Well, there are plenty of ways to play for college when the time comes. Loans, grants, financial aid, or even working and paying for their own college like I did.

The health care or other financial hardship is a fair point. I already said some people don't have a choice, mom has to work. So how about this novel idea: Mom works at night while dad is home, or vice versa. I just blew your mind, right?

Sure the parents don't see each other as much, but they're not babies who need constant attention and teaching. They'll be fine.

Surely you'd agree that's preferable to having the kid spend 8 hours a day in day care.

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Since I think day care is healthy for a child, of course it isn't preferable. Their current situation seems normal and healthy to me. Of course I don't try to bash others on the head with the bizarre idea that day care makes someone a bad mother.

But feel free to continue to offer advice on how people you never met should structure their lives. What does it matter if the parents never meet, as long as the mother is hovering over her baby 24 hours a day. Because hey, that is the most important thing.

ScottTheFish · #7 11-17-2005, 03:34 AM

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Since I think day care is healthy for a child, of course it isn't preferable. Their current situation seems normal and healthy to me. Of course I don't try to bash others on the head with the bizarre idea that day care makes someone a bad mother.

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Wow. Time in daycare is better than time with a parent, even with money issues aside? Good Lord.

Are you really telling me 40 hours a week in daycare and 10 with the mother is better than the other way around? And I'm the one with bizarre ideas?

You're really not too bright are you? Did you read this earlier?

I'll say it again. 4 or 5 hours a week of interaction with other kids away form home is GREAT. NECESSARY. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I never said it wasn't. All daycare is not bad.

Was that somehow unclear?

I've said several times in several different ways daycare does not make someone a bad parent. I spelled out specific circumstances under which I consider it bad parenting.

I assume your kid will go to boarding school from birth through college. With so much rearing by strangers and so little time the parents, it will be the healthiest kid in history.

In your case I would buy it. Better yet just don't breed.

Kablooie · #8 11-17-2005, 02:23 AM

Yeah, i love the way men are so happy to work three jobs to keep the kids out of daycare - but actually stay at home with the kid themselves? Nah, that's Mum's job. If they had had the wonderful experience of taking care of toddlers full time, they'd probably appreciate the equal importance of a few hours peace and quiet whilst somebody else takes care of the little brats.