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#14
10-25-2005, 03:38 PM
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Re: Interesting 15/30 AA hand live
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ummm, are you sure the bb's a SOLID regular? who was it? [/ QUOTE ] In my experience at the table, he's a good player. I know his hand seems crazy here, but I think it's actually a good play - he checkraises as if on some kind of pair + draw (maybe 89?), just calls the three bet, and then comes out betting when the 4-straight hits as if he's afraid his straight is going to check around. Meanwhile, if he's raised again, he can safely fold. I got fooled. 
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#16
10-25-2005, 03:47 PM
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Re: Interesting 15/30 AA hand live
BTW, while emotionally this absolute giveaway of a big pot was pretty soul-crushing, rationally I still think it was probably only a marginally bad fold. The reality is that I'm getting, with no implied or reverse implied odds 8.5-1, maybe 9.5-1 if the player behind me calls (which is usually terrible news) - do I have a 10% chance of winning this pot? Seeing as how I'm usually drawing dead, and when I'm not drawing dead I have only 8 outs, and when I'm miraculously ahead (as it turned out) there are still a lot of cards that can beat me, it doesn't seem like I can assume that I have 10% equity in the pot.
In any case, great play by the BB, even if his pre-flop call is pretty loose.
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#17
10-25-2005, 03:50 PM
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Re: Interesting 15/30 AA hand live
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ummm, are you sure the bb's a SOLID regular? who was it? [/ QUOTE ]You must admit, BB's play was terrific enough to win him the pot. He gambled with a shot that Hero would fold an overpair, while putting LP player on a draw. BB had no chance to win the pot other than to bet and give Hero a chance to fold. Granted, there is often a fine line between plays that are creative and plays that are maniacal. We just have to trust Hero's word that BB plays a good game. In this case, he did.
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#18
10-25-2005, 03:54 PM
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Re: Interesting 15/30 AA hand live
Hi Ben,
I still stand by my original reply, by advocating a fold. He checkraised your flop bet, called the 3-bet, and then bet into you on the turn. This completely smells of a straight draw with pair, which made it on the turn. He played well. There's often something about live poker that can only be interpreted by the player at the table. In most cases, you are so far behind. I agree with you 100%.
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#19
10-25-2005, 04:12 PM
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Re: Interesting 15/30 AA hand live
i definitely agree w/ the fold on the turn and i'm not arguing the fact that the BB played the hand well. at the same time, though, a solid player usually won't be calling another solid player's utg raise w/ j6. and honestly, we say it looks brilliant now, but i really wonder how often the BB's move will work there. overall, i think his play in the hand was -EV.
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