POLL: playing out of racks VS not playing out of racks in LHE

[detroitplayer]

I find that on small denom chip games (many chips to a pot), casinos not letting people play out of racks slows the game down and is otherwise counterproductive. It is always taking forever for people to gather and stack their wins... chip stacks are forever falling all over the f_cking place...

In no limit, I can see why no racks should be allowed, but for any limit game, I just cannot see why it would be outlawed at most casinos.

You have your roll placed neatly in a rack or two and keep a stack of 10-15 chips out of the rack in front of you ready for betting. If you lose those chips, you take another stack out of your rack, and again, keep them in front of you ready for action. If you win a pot, it takes 1/4 the time to put those chips back into a rack rather than making a bunch of 20-high stacks while they fall all over the table. Not to mention the players who decide it's a good idea to have 15 different stacks of varying heights spread about before them.

[TheMetetron]

That's the whole fun of a low denom game. All of the chips all over the damn place. It just creates a fun atmosphere for the players to lose their money in.

[private joker]

Racks make the game go slower -- it's a lot easier to take chips off a felt stack than it is to dig into a rack and yank them out. I've logged many, many hours of B&M play and I can guarantee that no racks make the game faster.

Once you get so many chips that your stacks are too tall and plentiful, just color up.

[kross]

When people play out of racks, there are invariably some people who put ALL of their chips in the racks. Then, when they bet, they pull them out one at a time... after the action gets to them. Like they had no idea they would be needing some chips. And they won't verbalize their intentions so the rest of us can get on with it. They'll pull out 16 chips, one at a time, stacking them directly in front of them, and then finally push them out to raise.

OUTLAW RACKS AT THE TABLE!

[whiskeytown]

it invalidates jackpots at my card club...

and it would make me look like a clueless noob...

RB

[steamboatin]

Ditto from above, they count out their chips one at a time, then they have to stack them and do a little WSOP act and then they check.

In the unlikely event they win a pot, the next three hands are slower because they have to return the chips to the rack and can't seem to anticipate when they will need to look at the next pair of hole cards. The only thing that keeps my head from exploding (like the movie "Scanners") is it is usually an incredibly soft game.

If I sit at a table and most of the players are playing out of racks, it's just like going to Captain D's when they have all you can eat fish.

[Barry]

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Once you get so many chips that your stacks are too tall and plentiful, just color up.


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There is no such thing!

And what the others said. I've seen guys in a 4/8 chip structure call turn and river bets by pulling out chips from a rack 1 chip at a time. I have no problem so long as you have a working stack out. However, keeping chips in a rack is a sure tell of an anal retentive type.

[Nick-Zack]

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it invalidates jackpots at my card club...



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I think that this is an urban legend. I used to play at Greektown all the time and I heard about several things that invalidate jackpots:
- Racks on the Table
- Napkins on the Table
- Talking about the jackpot

I think that these things are just like the Neteller Giveaways - all a big story. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of a jackpot being not paid for any of these reasons?

NZ

PS - Sorry about hijacking the thread.

[youtalkfunny]

I was dealing, and management decreed, "Starting at midnight tonight, no more racks on the table."

I was told that this would speed up the game. I was very skeptical.

I was there that night. When the clock struck 12, all racks were removed.

The difference in game speed was STAGGERING. I was a huge skeptic going in, but the proof was right before your eyes--it had a HUGE impact. I couldn't believe the difference.

I can't make this point strongly enough--it was not a slight difference, or a tiny difference. It was a quantum leap.

[Andy B]

At Canterbury, because of the threat of blowing the jackpot, between the other players and the dealers, no one will let you keep your chips in the rack for very long. If you're racking up because you're going to leave soon, it is permissible to leave chips in a rack, as long as one end is propped up on the rail. If the button goes by you a second time, however, the dealer is going to ask you to take your chips out.

I have played in a home game where the chips don't stack worth a damn. Most of the crew plays out of a rack, and it does slow the game down.