KTo in the BB - check-raised on the river

[ccwhoelse?]

first hand at a new table

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

River: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 10.50 BB, between SB and Hero.</font>

should I check on this river.
should i be calling the raise?

[Shillx]

Probably fold to the check/raise. Since it is the 1st hand, I can see why you called, but I don't think you are good 1/10.

Shill

[DontRaisePlz]

Are you telling me spades are present here 9/10 of the time? Seems pretty outrageous to say hero isn't good here most of the time.

[ccwhoelse?]

QJ is also a possibility. i dunno if spades + QJ is here 9/10 times though.

[Shillx]

Seems pretty outrageous to say hero isn't good here most of the time.

This is crazy. When was the last time you called a river check/raise and won?

[btspider]

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Probably fold to the check/raise. Since it is the 1st hand, I can see why you called, but I don't think you are good 1/10.

Shill

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shill, what are your folded to river bet and WonAtSD stats? i'm scared to think most of your river fold suggestions are right b/c i sure don't make the ones you have suggested recently [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Entity]

I would not fold to this river checkraise. You are going to see two pair here often enough to make it OK.

Rob

[Shillx]

Fold to river bet: 46%
W$@SD: 59.4%

This is over a small sample though. I don't know how many hands you need to get a good idea of how accurate these #'s are. This is since I actively tried to get my VP$IP up to 12% and my PFR up to 7.5-8%. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] That is just scary.

[btspider]

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Fold to river bet: 46%
W$@SD: 59.4%

This is over a small sample though. I don't know how many hands you need to get a good idea of how accurate these #'s are. This is since I actively tried to get my VP$IP up to 12% and my PFR up to 7.5-8%. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] That is just scary.

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my goodness.. i'm never isolating you with TT again.. i suspect you may fold too much on the river.. although i heard something about a GoT post and a W$@SD of 62% or something..

[Shillx]

Over my entire PT database, my W$@SD is still 57% and my fold to river bet is like 37.5%. This was when I was limping in with big pairs and coldcalling with aces. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] Stupid ass me.

Yeah but you can still isolate me with TT because I play like a donkey postflop! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]