Short HU session vs v.good player

baronzeus · #1 12-13-2005, 08:34 PM

Here's a HU session vs a very good player. post your thoughts please. He is very aggressive postflop and can seem like a maniac but he is actually somewhat tight and a very good hand reader.

There were a few hands where I spewed. The bigger question here, though, is to find a very +EV strategy against him. I doubt I am very +EV against him but I don't know.

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Flop: (7.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero raises, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (7.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

River: (9.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $1499

Results in white below:
Big blind has Tc Td (Two Pairs, tens and fours)
Outcome: Big blind wins $1499


Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

River: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button(Poster) checks

Final Pot: $1424

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has Tc 8c (One pair, eights)
Big blind has 9s 5s (One pair, nines)
Outcome: Hero wins $1424


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

River: (8.00 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) checks

Final Pot: $1199

Results below:
Button (poster) has 5s 3s (One pair, fives)
Big blind has Th 2h (One pair, twos)
Outcome: Button (poster) wins $1199

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

River: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (0 players)
Big blind bets, Hero raises, Big blind calls

Final Pot: $1499

Results in white below:
Big blind has 6h 7s (Straight, six to ten)
Button (poster) has Td Jh (Straight, eight to queen)
Outcome: Hero wins $1499


Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind calls

River: (6.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $899

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: Big blind ($17540.77)
Seat 5: Button (poster) (Hero) ($1295.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $599

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Flop: (7.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

River: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $899

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $1349

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has 2s Ks (ace high)
Big blind has 6h Qc (One pair, queens)
Outcome: Hero wins $1349


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

River: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $1349

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has Ts Kh (Two Pairs, aces and tens)
Outcome: Button (poster) wins $1349


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

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Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $75/$150 Stakes (2 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: Button (poster) ($16489.77)

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind raises, Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (11.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero raises, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (11.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $1499

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: Big blind ($15514.77)
Seat 5: Button (poster) (Hero) ($3315.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Results not shown

Compliments of PokerGeek
Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $75/$150 Stakes (1 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 5: Button (poster) (Hero) ($3514.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: Button (poster) ($15364.77)

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Starting Stacks
Seat 5: Button (poster) (Hero) ($3514.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero folds (I don't know why I folded this one)

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Flop: (7.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) calls

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) checks

River: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) checks

Final Pot: $599

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has Ad 8s (One pair, sevens(ace kicker))
Big blind has 9s Qd (One pair, sevens)
Outcome: Button (poster) wins $599


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Flop: (7.00 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

River: (7.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) checks

Final Pot: $1049

Results in white below:
Big blind has Ac Ks (One pair, sevens)
Outcome: Hero wins $1049


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

River: (6.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $1199

Results in white below:
Big blind has 4c Ad (One pair, aces)
Outcome: Big blind wins $1199


Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

River: (7.00 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) calls

Final Pot: $1349

Results in white below:
Big blind has 6d Ac (One pair, aces)
Outcome: Hero wins $1349


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Flop: (7.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero raises, Big blind calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind calls

River: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind calls

Final Pot: $1349

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has 7c Jd (Two Pairs, jacks and fives)
Outcome: Hero wins $1349


Preflop: Hero is Big blind with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $449

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

River: (6.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $1199

Results in white below:
Big blind has 4d 5c (Two Pairs, sixes and threes(ace kicker))
Button (poster) has As 4h (Two Pairs, sixes and threes)
Outcome: Hero wins $1199


Preflop: Hero is Big blind with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero raises, Big blind calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $749

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) raises, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

River: (11.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $1799

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has Jd Ac (Two Pairs, aces and eights)
Outcome: Button (poster) wins $1799


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero calls

River: (6.00 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero raises, Big blind calls

Final Pot: $1499

Results in white below:
Button (poster) has Ts Js (Straight, nine to king)
Outcome: Hero wins $1499


Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: $150

Results not shown

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind calls

Turn: (3.00 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind calls

River: (5.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $749

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) checks

River: (3.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) calls

Final Pot: $749

Results in white below:
Big blind has Js 3c (Two Pairs, jacks and eights)
Outcome: Hero wins $749


Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind raises, Hero raises, Big blind calls

Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind calls

River: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Big blind checks, Hero bets, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $1049

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Turn: (4.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) folds

Final Pot: $599

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero folds

Final Pot: $125

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero calls

Flop: (4.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button (poster) bets, Hero folds

Final Pot: $299

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button (poster) raises, Hero raises, Button (poster) calls

Flop: (7.00 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button (poster) raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: $599

Preflop: Hero is Button (poster) with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Big blind folds

Final Pot: $150

Results not shown

bugstud · #2 12-13-2005, 09:06 PM

I think in a 2/3 structure I would never fold pf in the sb.

TheMetetron · #3 12-13-2005, 09:39 PM

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I would.

bugstud · #4 12-13-2005, 09:48 PM

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I would.

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well, I rarely fold in a 1/2 anyway, so I probably just suck.

#5 12-13-2005, 09:59 PM

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I would.

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HU you're folding against a random hand getting 5:1?

TheMetetron · #6 12-13-2005, 10:02 PM

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I would.

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HU you're folding against a random hand getting 5:1?

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Yes.

Do you guys play HU ever? Baronzeus' 23o fold was very standard, especially early in the match.

damaniac · #7 12-13-2005, 10:34 PM

You're getting raised a lot. If you call/fold, that is only to encourage more of it. If you call/call most of the time, you're getting 4:6 instead. A good reason not to complete very often.

Spicymoose · #8 12-13-2005, 10:53 PM

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I would.

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You arn't getting 5:1. You know villain will raise X% of the time, and so if you are forced to fold the weakest of your hands, you don't get to see the flop. Therefore you are only getting 4:1, or whatever the true number is.

TStoneMBD · #9 12-13-2005, 11:19 PM

in response to the 23o dilemna:

lets call the investment you have to make to call preflop X

you need 2:1 to see a flop based on hot and cold preflop equity against a random hand.

because youre getting 5:1 the equity in X is 250%. however, if youre folding every time he raises which i would, your equity when he raises is -100%. even if he raised 67% of the time out of position calling would still be correct based on hot and cold equity. .67(-100%) +.33(250%) = +15.5%. meaning the equity you gain on X is 1.155X

this makes it look like calling is the right play.

this doesnt factor in implied odds however. even though youre in position i think your implied odds with 23o are reverse. its hard to quantify the equity in your implied odds because its theoretical.

i havent read the hand history so i dont have an estimation for how often villain will raise preflop out of position after youve completed, but lets just say its 33%.

he raises 33% of the time meaning that your equity in investing X is .33(-100) + .67(250) +134.5% or 1.345X.

.345X is equivalent to 1/3 of a 1/3 SB, (.11SB). your reverse implied odds in this situation would have to beat greater than .11SB in order for calling to be incorrect.

i would venture to guess that your reverse implied odds are more than -.11SB, if not by a wide margin.

someone may be much better at quantifying the implied odds of this situation then i can however.

TheMetetron · #10 12-13-2005, 11:47 PM

Good, glad someone else could explain it. I was too lazy. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]