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anything to say about this?
I hate these kinds of hands.
I guess people could bluff me easily but it's gonna be expensive to find out. Better way to do this? OK, now I might have implied odds to draw to a set, but if the pot gave me slightly worse odds? Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 5.25 BB |
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Re: anything to say about this?
I would play this the same but it feels so weak. Maybe we both suck.
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Re: anything to say about this?
Nice fold. You have to spend 2.5BB to call down this 9.25BB pot. He needs to be bluffing 30% of time to make this play profitable. Considering his preflop raise but no cap he's very likey to have AK, AQ, or AJ.
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Re: anything to say about this?
I know this feels weak, but think a moment about what MP1 is doing. He heard you 3-bet, he saw the A hit, and then he heard you bet the flop. And then he raises you. He doesn't know you have an underpair. If he's putting you on a hand, he has to give you credit for a big A, so when he raises he's saying he thinks he's ahead even after everything you've shown so far. He's looking at an ace himself.
(That's if he's bothering to put you on a hand at all. If he's just betting his own hand and not thinking about what you might hold, then you're behind basically 100% of the time here). Yes, if MP1 is clever and tricky he might be bluffing you off your hand with JJ or KQ, but the ratio of tricky players to unthinking players at this level is very low. I might call the flop in the hopes of spiking a K, but I'm folding the turn UI. |
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Re: anything to say about this?
I'd call the check-raise for two reasons. One, you about have odds to do that to see the turn card. Two, he might check the turn for a variety of reasons, allowing you to see the river card for free if you'd like.
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Re: anything to say about this?
[ QUOTE ]
One, you about have odds to do that to see the turn card. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I might call the flop in the hopes of spiking a K, but I'm folding the turn UI. [/ QUOTE ] What odds?? The guy raised PF, I'm just about ready to assume he has an AK AQ AJ! You aren't even CLOSE to having enough odds to chase a 2-out'er if he does! It's HU and the pot's tiny, so you aren't gonna get paid a lot for this one. 10:1 pot odds, and you have little in the way of implied, you aren't gonna make up 12 more SB's here. Since you 3bet PF, he has to assume you have some guns too, and he C/R'ed you when you show that kind of PF strength, he's clearly not afraid of you having an ace. If he's bluffing, that's a terrible time to pick to bluff! I think that's a good fold, albeit a tough one. |
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Re: anything to say about this?
aron:
[ QUOTE ] anything to say about this? [/ QUOTE ] I like the fold. and MP1's line won him the minimum. --Rico |
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Re: anything to say about this?
I wouldn't fold. The raise could be from someone finding out where they stood with QQ or JJ.
See what the turn brings before you decide to fold. |
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Re: anything to say about this?
This fold is winning poker at its finest. Nice hand.
Rob |
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Re: anything to say about this?
This is why I don't play KK.
(I think you did fine though.) |
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