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08-27-2005, 06:07 AM
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Worst Fold Ever?
20-40 live. Great game. I limp on the button after four limpers with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Blinds come along so there 7 SB in the pot.
Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Checked to a random psycho guy who nonetheless must have some of this flop to bet who bets, one folder, I raise, the BB instacalls. BB is not a good player, but he's not an idiot, he can't have total trash here like a lone 4 or 5 or pocket eights, he's got an ace, two pair, a straight, or a diamond draw. Psycho guy calls and we go the turn threeways for 6.5 BB. Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Psycho guy donkbets, I raise again, BB threebets, psycho guy agonizes for ten minutes and folds. There is simply no doubt he mucked an ace. I call. 13.5 BB pot River: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB bets, I fold. -Michael 
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#2
08-27-2005, 06:17 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
I don't really understand why you would call the turn here but fold the river. I can see reasons to fold the turn or calldown, depending on the player, but the J seems about as blanky as you could hope for.
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08-27-2005, 06:18 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
"I don't really understand why you would call the turn here but fold the river. I can see reasons to fold the turn or calldown, depending on the player, but the J seems about as blanky as you could hope for."
Because I have five outs against a straight. -Michael
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#4
08-27-2005, 06:23 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
Then I would say it is a good fold if BB is passive bad. But if he is at all aggressive (or with no read) I think I call here. Just seems like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or even AK gets shown down one time in 15.
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08-27-2005, 06:52 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
I can't fold this on the river, but if you trust your read on the BB, I think a straight is a bit optimistic. Maybe fold on the turn. But I'm stubborn and I'd probably call it down.
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#8
08-27-2005, 09:22 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
the J is a crappy card since I could see him doing this with AK-AJ. if the A were a diamond then it would also be less likely that he has top pair and a flush draw, but I think he'd play that the same way, not 3-betting the flop to keep people in for his draw, but doing it on the turn to gamble it up a bit and because he's probably seen you raise with some seemingly (to him) trashy hands postflop
I don't think you ought to fold the river. maybe you could fold the turn if you didn't have outs, but once you make it to the river I think you should be paying off.
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#9
08-27-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
[ QUOTE ]
"I don't really understand why you would call the turn here but fold the river. I can see reasons to fold the turn or calldown, depending on the player, but the J seems about as blanky as you could hope for." Because I have five outs against a straight. -Michael [/ QUOTE ] you have 3 pair. 6 outs
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#10
08-27-2005, 09:29 AM
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Re: Worst Fold Ever?
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I don't think you ought to fold the river. maybe you could fold the turn if you didn't have outs, but once you make it to the river I think you should be paying off. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Krishan
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